Raid Team Statements:

[Rob_]

If the twins were not shot first, they slept through a lot.

It was such a big house, with 3 stair cases, thick doors and walls. He would have been confident they would not wake. He was right.

The rifle would sound quite loud being fired indoors, I would have thought the last thing Bamber would want is to shoot two young children while they were running around screaming, if they ran and hid they would be hard to find in such a big house.

If the shooter is Sheila I would have thought the children would naturally be first but Cc must have spotted something that I have missed?

My best guess is the Children were already shot when Nevil comes across Sheila in the kitchen, I think the shots were fired all in one go Sheila only being able to load 8 bullets into the magazine.

Perhaps Cc or someone can show me why the twins were not shot first?

[Adam]

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,609.msg13181.html#msg13181

Here is Woodcock's WS. This is not on the link on page 1. Will read it today.

[Adam]

Woodcock says Jeremy had said he had given Sheila lessons on how to use the rifle he had left out.

The door they broke into was bolted top and bottom. Must have taken a bit of work with the sledgehammer.

Bamber told them it is usual practice for them to be bolted. Key or no key, he had to get in through a window.

Woodcock says Nevill was found with trousers down and head in a coal scuttle. A lot of damage to his head and a lot of blood on the floor. 

[Adam]

Woodcock says Sheila had 2 bullet wounds and her feet were 'spotlessly clean'.

He says the bed furthest from the door in Sheila's bedroom looked like someone had got out of bed.

[Adam]

Jeremy bedroom was locked. It had a sign on the door saying 'Jeremy's Room'.

[ILB]

Jeremy bedroom was locked. It had a sign on the door saying 'Jeremy's Room'.

Takes me back to my childhood.

I had a ceramic plate on my bedroom door with my name.

[ILB]

Do you agree with the judge that she a limited time to do everything - 3.10am - 3.50am.

Although this was addressed to CC, I personally don't and as said on the other thread I believe this was massively unfair to Bamber in his summing up.

[Rob_]

Woodcock says Sheila had 2 bullet wounds and her feet were 'spotlessly clean'.

He says the bed furthest from the door in Sheila's bedroom looked like someone had got out of bed.

You have seen the photo Sheila's feet were not spotlessly clean and to my eyes her bed was not slept in.

Also page 5 has been retyped on a different typewriter.

When describing Sheila he uses the word "leaking" which to me means not dry? 

[ILB]

Woodcock says Sheila had 2 bullet wounds and her feet were 'spotlessly clean'.

Would you expect her feet to be covered in blood?

Was Nevills feet caked in blood?

She probably had nice feet, pedicures etc. I think what the officer is referring to is that her feet were not bloody.

[ILB]

You have seen the photo Sheila's feet were not spotlessly clean and to my eyes her bed was not slept in.

Brought this up some years ago.

If I recall someone from memory contested that she had slept in another bed.

But I seriously doubt anyway Bamber would have made shelias bed.

[ILB]

Shelias stomach shows she had potentially eaten later than the rest of the occupants of the Farm that night. ( or at least this is what the CT champion)

However I have wondered if she had an undiagnosed health condition such as GERD.

[Adam]

You have seen the photo Sheila's feet were not spotlessly clean and to my eyes her bed was not slept in.

Also page 5 has been retyped on a different typewriter.

When describing Sheila he uses the word "leaking" which to me means not dry?

I have seen one photo of a foot with a bit of redness.

After doctoring a photo of Sheila's neck, surely the CT didn't do the same with a foot.

[Adam]

You have seen the photo Sheila's feet were not spotlessly clean and to my eyes her bed was not slept in.

Also page 5 has been retyped on a different typewriter.

When describing Sheila he uses the word "leaking" which to me means not dry?

The typewriter was available to testify but was not called on.

[Steve_uk]

The typewriter was available to testify but was not called on.

Michael Jackson chimp to testify. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=headline+michael+jackson+chimp+to+testify&sca_esv=a39f92e395423779&sxsrf=AHTn8zrCT4FnsnaUjel1l-9IBzvLsozkLw%3A1745170034897&ei=ci4FaPbANvCfhbIPtqDO0AM&ved=0ahUKEwj2wYKAkeeMAxXwT0EAHTaQEzoQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=headline+michael+jackson+chimp+to+testify&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiKWhlYWRsaW5lIG1pY2hhZWwgamFja3NvbiBjaGltcCB0byB0ZXN0aWZ5MgQQIxgnMggQABiiBBiJBTIFEAAY7wUyCBAAGIAEGKIEMggQABiABBiiBDIFEAAY7wVIsB5Q7wlYsRlwAXgBkAEAmAGJAaAB1weqAQMzLja4AQPIAQD4AQGYAgqgApkIwgIHECMYsAMYJ8ICChAAGLADGNYEGEfCAgcQIxiwAhgnwgINECMY8AUYsAIYJxjJAsICChAhGKABGMMEGAqYAwCIBgGQBgiSBwMzLjegB_Q4sgcDMi43uAeMCA&sclient=gws-wiz-serp