Experiment carried out for CC/Curiosity

[Adam]

I just held an eating knife on a hot oven plate for 3 minutes.

The knife is the same metal throughout. The handle is not different to the sharpe end.

The heat onto my hands was coming from the oven plate itself. Rather than the part of the knife I was holding.

Afterwards the part of the knife on the oven plate was hot. The rest of the knife was cold.

[Adam]

Therefore I do not agree a rifle, silencer, poker or cattle prodder would get too hot to hold for the 5 minutes Fowler said was needed in order to burn Nevill's back.

My hand would be several feet from the plate when holding one end of a rifle, poker or cattle prodder on an aga plate. 

A silencer is a bigger & more solid item than a knife. So only one end would get hot in 5 minutes.

[Adam]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Harley-Pattern-Dessert-Knives-Stainless/dp/B014Q1R8T4/ref=asc_df_B014Q1R8T4?mcid=23e17fd4fb083fbba36b2ab2a262aae5&th=1&psc=1&tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=697211103991&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4930699015591888063&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9044974&hvtargid=pla-487538736440&psc=1&gad_source=1

This is the sort of knife I used. Stainless steel. The thicker part of the knife was on the oven plate.

Interestingly there was no mark on the hot end of the knife.

[Adam]

I left the oven plate on for 5 minutes before holding the knife on it. At the highest tempreture.

So maximum heat was on the knife throughout.

[Adam]

As said yesterday, if an instrument would get too hot to hold for the 5 minutes, he could use a tea towel or oven gloves.

Agree that would be a few seconds more mucking about for him.

But he did not have to.

[Curiosity]

Where did you find the AGA, Adam - WHF? and did Ann chase you out of the kitchen when she saw what you were up to?

[Adam]

Where did you find the AGA, Adam - WHF? and did Ann chase you out of the kitchen when she saw what you were up to?

Have deleted the word aga. An aga or oven plate will do the same job.

[Curiosity]

Have deleted the word aga. An aga or oven plate will do the same job.

Methinks you would have to remove the AGA hotplate plug and plunge the knife (or whatever metal object) into the red hot coals within the combustion chamber before it would brand, or cause burns on anyone -

[Adam]

'Any metal implement heated to the degree the end was capable of causing a burn would radiate heat and be impossible to hold without inflicting a nasty injury to the hand holding the end.'

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Didn't agree with this quote from CC/Curiosity. Espescially items as big as a rifle, poker & cattle prod & as solid as a silencer.

As it happens, something as small as an eating knife can be held on an oven plate for the required 5 minutes.

Would have been happy to concede & suggest Bamber used a tea towel or oven gloves to hold his chosen implement. But did not need to.

[Cambridgecutie]

Methinks you would have to remove the AGA hotplate plug and plunge the knife (or whatever metal object) into the red hot coals within the combustion chamber before it would brand, or cause burns on anyone -

Well I know on occasions I've needed to stir a sauce/soup in a saucepan and Ive used stainless steel cutlery, because it was to hand and I couldn't be bothered to open a drawer to access a plastic, wood or silicone spoon, and the stainless steel cutlery became so hot I was unable to continue with it.

[Bubo bubo]

Well I know on occasions I've needed to stir a sauce/soup in a saucepan and Ive used stainless steel cutlery, because it was to hand and I couldn't be bothered to open a drawer to access a plastic, wood or silicone spoon, and the stainless steel cutlery became so hot I was unable to continue with it.

For what its worth; Parts of the AGA that can transfer heat to external elements such as handles and hinges have internally some special washers or padding to reduce heat transference to those parts of the  exterior that would otherwise be in danger of overheating. These special parts need to be examined and replaced when worn or broken.

I wonder when those at WHF were last checked?

[Jane]

For what its worth; Parts of the AGA that can transfer heat to external elements such as handles and hinges have internally some special washers or padding to reduce heat transference to those parts of the  exterior that would otherwise be in danger of overheating. These special parts need to be examined and replaced when worn or broken.

I wonder when those at WHF were last checked?

I can open the door of the simmering oven, put things in, and remove them without gloves. I can't do the same with the roasting oven. Nor can I lift the dome from the boiling hotplate without protection. I don't have to use gloves to lift the dome from the simmering hotplate.

[Adam]

I was very sceptical about the claim that a whole rifle would get scolding hot.

Just from putting the nozzle end on an oven plate for 5 minutes.

So did the experiment with a 3 inch knife.

[Curiosity]

I can open the door of the simmering oven, put things in, and remove them without gloves. I can't do the same with the roasting oven. Nor can I lift the dome from the boiling hotplate without protection. I don't have to use g loves to lift the dome from the simmering hotplate.

But have tried burning the back of your neck on the ashpit-door handle yet, and asked your partner to take numerous photos of the results?  Preferably from 20 different angles.

Dread to think how much the latest electric AGAs cost to run, i.e. £££££ for cash-strapped commoners but only peanuts to the tattooed, toupéed Lord of Beckingham Palace. I wouldn't be surprised if this voluptuous AGA demonstrator devours everything she cooks -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6O59EGf4-Y&ab_channel=agacooking

Not everyone's a fan though -

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2010/mar/15/aga-cooking

[Cambridgecutie]

But have tried burning the back of your neck on the ashpit-door handle yet, and asked your partner to take numerous photos of the results?  Preferably from 20 different angles.

Dread to think how much the latest electric AGAs cost to run, i.e. £££££ for cash-strapped commoners but only peanuts to the tattooed, toupéed Lord of Beckingham Palace. I wouldn't be surprised if this voluptuous AGA demonstrator devours everything she cooks -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6O59EGf4-Y&ab_channel=agacooking

Not everyone's a fan though -

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2010/mar/15/aga-cooking

I'm with the Guardian. 

AGAs, to my eye, are aesthetically unappealing and pretentious.  The demonstator's bmi probably puts her in the obese range.  She's hardly a good ad for "healthy eating" especially given she's cooking what looks like white rice    Smug (not Smeg) from nr Cambridge.

Check this out:

https://www.miele.co.uk/c/miele-experience-centre-cambridge-11492.htm