Prof Knight on Nevill's back burns.

[Cambridgecutie]

Prodding.

Yes, prodding of sorts from surgical hardware.

[snow66!]

Please desist with the overuse of exclamation marks when discussing the victims as it comes over as disrespectful. 

Boyce is not a pathologist.  My views are aligned with those of Prof Knight.

I didn't realize I was being disrespectful Cutie, grammar and such has never been a strong point of mine.
I will try to stick to full stops.
Well as Adam says, whose views do we go by, Knight, or Vaneziz who examined the bodies??

[Roch]

New AGA / wounds related images are available. Details to follow on another thread.

[snow66!]

New AGA / wounds related images are available. Details to follow on another thread.

Look forward to that ,Roch.

[Cambridgecutie]

I didn't realize I was being disrespectful Cutie, grammar and such has never been a strong point of mine.
I will try to stick to full stops.
Well as Adam says, whose views do we go by, Knight, or Vaneziz who examined the bodies??

The upshot of Dr Vanezis' trial testimony was that he was unsure what caused the marks. 

[snow66!]

The upshot of Dr Vanezis' trial testimony was that he was unsure what caused the marks.

Why is it so important to you that Boyce is wrong, Cutie?
Does the possibility of the Aga making the marks upset your own crime scene scenario in some way?

[Cambridgecutie]

Why is it so important to you that Boyce is wrong, Cutie?
Does the possibility of the Aga making the marks upset your own crime scene scenario in some way?

I go by the evidence and facts neither of which support the Aga causing the marks on NB's back. 

[snow66!]

I go by the evidence and facts neither of which support the Aga causing the marks on NB's back.

Well, someone is going to have to make a decision about the marks sooner or later, Cutie.
Do you think the CCRC will be in the process of asking for expert opinion at the moment?
How else are they going to be able to make a decision about them?

[Cambridgecutie]

Well, someone is going to have to make a decision about the marks sooner or later, Cutie.
Do you think the CCRC will be in the process of asking for expert opinion at the moment?
How else are they going to be able to make a decision about them?

I doubt the CCRC will waste resources considering the marks when they do not meet the CPS criteria for an appeal.  We have discussed this time and time again.  I really don't know what is difficult to understand about it.

[snow66!]

I doubt the CCRC will waste resources considering the marks when they do not meet the CPS criteria for an appeal.  We have discussed this time and time again.  I really don't know what is difficult to understand about it.

OK, thanks Cutie, we will wait and see.

[Zoso]

Why is it so important to you that Boyce is wrong, Cutie?
Does the possibility of the Aga making the marks upset your own crime scene scenario in some way?

Why do you think it's important to people that he's wrong? They think he's wrong because they just don't agree with it. Personally, I think it's ridiculous but if he had a GOOD theory, that would be different. This one produced no similar results, requires Nevil to have laid on his side in the same position (though he body would have been relaxed if unconscious) for quite some time. Some think he then called Bamber (with a concussion) or that the police then moved him to the coal scuttle where he was photographed. It's mad! And that's at best.

[Jane]

Why do you think it's important to people that he's wrong? They think he's wrong because they just don't agree with it. Personally, I think it's ridiculous but if he had a GOOD theory, that would be different. This one produced no similar results, requires Nevil to have laid on his side in the same position (though he body would have been relaxed if unconscious) for quite some time. Some think he then called Bamber (with a concussion) or that the police then moved him to the coal scuttle where he was photographed. It's mad! And that's at best.


This belief must surely imply that he was shot by the police? He had numerous and very bloody wounds. Where was the blood on the Aga? Did those police 'responsible ' for moving him take showers prior to leaving?

[Roch]

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,12385.msg577854.html#msg577854

[snow66!]

Why do you think it's important to people that he's wrong? They think he's wrong because they just don't agree with it. Personally, I think it's ridiculous but if he had a GOOD theory, that would be different. This one produced no similar results, requires Nevil to have laid on his side in the same position (though he body would have been relaxed if unconscious) for quite some time. Some think he then called Bamber (with a concussion) or that the police then moved him to the coal scuttle where he was photographed. It's mad! And that's at best.

I will have a look at the Doc maker articles and see what they are saying. Zoso!
Seems i'm still subscribed, the rascals.

[David1819]

I presume there would have been X rays taken at post mortem. If he did have plates and screws these would have been identified. PV ordered X rays when first contacted.

Correct