Prof Knight on Nevill's back burns.

[Adam]

I believe NB's back surgery was carried out during WW2?  I've no idea if medi records are updated during wartime? 

We also know NB had a preference for going private: JB and SC's schooling, SC and June's psychiatric care.  Private medi treatment is not always added to the notes. 

Is there any evidence Dr Vanezis/Prof Knight requested victims' medi records?  Not really sure why they would when the cause of death was gunshot wound.

Both thought the marks were recent.  Well I think they probably were recent but imo they were caused internally rather than externally.  NB's spine and neck were stretched with blood moving away from the area and the skin drying out, I think the surgical hardware started to protrude from within.  Had he have remained in that position unattended I think the hardware might have burst through the skin.

So you think they were recent but not from 'prodding' from a cold instrument as Knight said.

Internal. A pity Vanezis made a mistake saying they were 'distinct burn marks'.

[Bubo bubo]

I knew it wouldn't sit comfortably with you!  Its too simple, straightforward, plausible, ticks all the boxes and doesn't involve thousands of conspiracy theories! 

The main objective of a PM is to determine cause of death.  Given all victims sustained more than one gunshot wound, 8 in the case of NB, why would it follow that complete body xrays would be undertaken?  Esepcially if he could determine cause of death from one or more of the gunshot wounds. 

Not necessarily.  If xrays were taken in that area some metals are difficult to detect and/or can be hidden by bone.

Where's the evidence Dr Vanezis ordered xrays?  Ordered them from where? 

He does refer to observing a fragmented bullet on a radiograph which he was unable to locate in the body cavity.

[Curiosity]

A frontal x-ray of SC's neck wounds was taken and probably others from the side, so why not some of NB's severe mouth and throat wounds. Any metallic objects, such as screws and plates in the spine wouldn't have been missed, surely. Hence no comment from Vanezis because none were observed. Just because more x-rays are not in the public domain, doesn't mean none exist.

[Bubo bubo]

A frontal x-ray of SC's neck wounds was taken and probably others from the side, so why not some of NB's severe mouth and throat wounds. Any metallic objects, such as screws and plates in the spine wouldn't have been missed, surely. Hence no comment from Vanezis because none were observed. Just because more x-rays are not in the public domain, doesn't mean none exist.

Given the circumstances the adults would need checking for broken hands, arms , legs ribs etc etc.

[Adam]

Not sure why CC/Curiosity says they are not burns.

His 2004-2012 & current submission are based on them being burns.

Thought she wanted him released.

[snow66!]

Given the circumstances the adults would need checking for broken hands, arms , legs ribs etc etc.

Very true, Bubo, very true!

[Curiosity]

Not sure why CC/Curiosity says they are not burns.

His 2004-2012 & current submission are based on them being burns.

Thought she wanted him released.

CC and Curiosity are two different people living many miles apart, Adam. You should know that by now!

[ngb1066]

CC and Curiosity are two different people living many miles apart, Adam. You should know that by now!

The problem is that we do not know that.  You and CC may be telling the truth, but we have no way of knowing.  Unfortunately we have been conned before.

[Cambridgecutie]

A frontal x-ray of SC's neck wounds was taken and probably others from the side, so why not some of NB's severe mouth and throat wounds. Any metallic objects, such as screws and plates in the spine wouldn't have been missed, surely. Hence no comment from Vanezis because none were observed. Just because more x-rays are not in the public domain, doesn't mean none exist.

SC's neck wounds were the cause of death.  NB's mouth and throat wounds were not the cause of death. 

Any xrays would need to home in on that area and any hardware not obscured by bones.  Metals with a low atonomic number don't block much radiation making them difficult to see.

Bearing in mind too when Dr Vanezis examined NB he would have been lying flat as opposed to the found position with his head hanging forward and his spine curved and stretched with the metal hardware causing friction internally. 

[Curiosity]

The problem is that we do not know that.  You and CC may be telling the truth, but we have no way of knowing.  Unfortunately we have been conned before.

May?  I am definitely telling the truth. She is certainly female whereas I'm thoroughly male and doubt we'll ever meet, enough said.

[ngb1066]

May?  I am definitely telling the truth. She is certainly female whereas I'm thoroughly male and doubt we'll ever meet, enough said.

I am not doubting you, but you must surely understand why some are skeptical in view of the history on this.

[Cambridgecutie]

CC and Curiosity are two different people living many miles apart, Adam. You should know that by now!

Are we?  Can't recall if we ever discussed which part of the country we reside in? 

I would say your grammar is better than mine.  Certainly your IT skills are.  But I trump on logic!  Surely these aspects of our posts are noticeable to others!?

[Curiosity]

SC's neck wounds were the cause of death.  NB's mouth and throat wounds were not the cause of death. 

Any xrays would need to home in on that area and any hardware not obscured by bones.  Metals with a low atonomic number don't block much radiation making them difficult to see.

Bearing in mind too when Dr Vanezis examined NB he would have been lying flat as opposed to the found position with his head hanging forward and his spine curved and stretched with the metal hardware causing friction internally.

I'm not sure what surgically-inert metal was used from 1939-45 and onwards, but if titanium it would show up on radiographs according to - https://www.quora.com/Does-titanium-show-on-an-X-ray

[Cambridgecutie]

I'm not sure what surgically-inert metal was used from 1939-45 and onwards, but if titanium it would show up on radiographs according to - https://www.quora.com/Does-titanium-show-on-an-X-ray

https://sciencenotes.org/list-metals/

Key points about titanium and X-rays:
Low density compared to other metals:
Titanium has a relatively low atomic number, meaning it doesn't absorb X-rays as strongly as heavier metals like lead, which is why it might appear less distinct on an X-ray image.

[Cambridgecutie]

That statement was made post trial.

Which officer was asked to take xrays and where was this supposed to take place?