Prof Knight on Nevill's back burns.

[Cambridgecutie]

The easiest thing to stand up on a hot aga plate for 5 minutes would be a silencer.

As the CT say 'there was more than one'.

However holding a rifle barrel or poker on a hot aga plate for 5 minutes is not hard.

Zoso suggested a cattle prodder.

As always. Options for Bamber.

Any metal implement heated to the degree the end was capable of causing a burn would radiate heat and be impossible to hold without inflicting a nasty injury to the hand holding the end.

I'm with Prof Knight they are not burns.

If I was pushed I would say they are marks caused from within eg metal plates, screws or such like which given NB's final resting position ie upper body bent over and spine curved took on that appearance post death.

[Cambridgecutie]

Considering the largest mark has a an unburned area in the centre. I don't really see what else could have caused it. Also you can see in the top right that the burn mark is bleeding slightly. There is no blood on the AGA handle as far as I can see.

Pareidolia:

Pareidolia is the tendency to see a pattern or meaning in a random stimulus, like a visual image. For example, you might see a face in a cloud or burnt toast.

You did the same with your 'forensic evidence breakthrough' when you thought you saw SC's handprint in/on the bible but only you could see it! 

[Adam]

Any metal implement heated to the degree the end was capable of causing a burn would radiate heat and be impossible to hold without inflicting a nasty injury to the hand holding the end.

I'm with Prof Knight they are not burns.

If I was pushed I would say they are marks caused from within eg metal plates, screws or such like which given NB's final resting position ie upper body bent over and spine curved took on that appearance post death.

You wouldn't have to hold a silencer. It would stand up on it's own.

A rifle barrel, poker or cattle prodder would not get too hot to hold. Your hands would be several feet from the area being heated.

[Cambridgecutie]

You wouldn't have to hold a silencer. It would stand up on it's own.

A rifle barrel, poker or cattle prodder would not get too hot to hold. Your hands would be several feet from the area being heated.

The heat would radiate up a metal implement.  It's why saucepan handles are made the way they are:

Saucepan handles typically don't cause burns because they are often made from materials like plastic or wood, which are poor conductors of heat, meaning they don't transfer heat from the pan to your hand very efficiently; essentially acting as an insulator, keeping the handle relatively cool even when the pan is hot.

Key points about saucepan handles and heat transfer:

Material matters:
Most saucepan handles are made from materials like plastic or Bakelite, which are designed to resist heat transfer.

Design features:
Some metal handles may have a hollow design or a smaller contact area with the pan to minimize heat conduction.

Heat dissipation:
The long handle design also allows for more surface area to dissipate heat into the air, preventing excessive warming.

[Cambridgecutie]

You wouldn't have to hold a silencer. It would stand up on it's own.

A rifle barrel, poker or cattle prodder would not get too hot to hold. Your hands would be several feet from the area being heated.

And then what?  You let if cool down before handling it?  You're not thinking it through!

[Adam]

The heat would radiate up a metal implement.  It's why saucepan handles are made the way they are:

Saucepan handles typically don't cause burns because they are often made from materials like plastic or wood, which are poor conductors of heat, meaning they don't transfer heat from the pan to your hand very efficiently; essentially acting as an insulator, keeping the handle relatively cool even when the pan is hot.

Key points about saucepan handles and heat transfer:

Material matters:
Most saucepan handles are made from materials like plastic or Bakelite, which are designed to resist heat transfer.

Design features:
Some metal handles may have a hollow design or a smaller contact area with the pan to minimize heat conduction.

Heat dissipation:
The long handle design also allows for more surface area to dissipate heat into the air, preventing excessive warming.

So use a tea towel.

I doubt if holding something several feet long on an aga hot plate would travel up to your hands.

[Adam]

And then what?  You let if cool down before handling it?  You're not thinking it through!

Use a tea towel. How do people take food out of an oven?

Your not thinking it through 

[Cambridgecutie]

So use a tea towel.

I doubt if holding something several feet long on an aga hot plate would travel up to your hands.

Why don't you try it?!

When PB conducted his experiments he didn't hold the rifle while he was heating it up and why are they wearing safety goggles?  See around 17mins in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i2CjYDJGTo&t=630s

[Adam]

Why don't you try it?!

When PB conducted his experiments he didn't hold the rifle while he was heating it up and why are they wearing safety goggles?  See around 17mins in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i2CjYDJGTo&t=630s

Why would Bamber need safety googles?

[Curiosity]

Considering the largest mark has a an unburned area in the centre. I don't really see what else could have caused it. Also you can see in the top right that the burn mark is bleeding slightly. There is no blood on the AGA handle as far as I can see.

So what caused the lower two marks then, because they're of a different size and shape than the top one?

[Cambridgecutie]

So what caused the lower two marks then, because they're of a different size and shape than the top one?

More pareiodolia 

[Jane]

Perhaps the smaller ones were cigarette burns?

[Adam]

Why don't you try it?!

When PB conducted his experiments he didn't hold the rifle while he was heating it up and why are they wearing safety goggles?  See around 17mins in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i2CjYDJGTo&t=630s

I can't try it myself as don't have a rifle, cattle prodder or poker.

Very much doubt holding the end of one of those on a hot plate for 5 minutes the heat would travel several feet to the top.

If it did, use a tea towel/oven gloves 

[Adam]

Agree if standing a silencer on a hot plate for 5 minutes, you may need a tea towel/oven gloves.

A silencer is a lot smaller than a rifle, poker or cattle prodder.

[Cambridgecutie]

I can't try it myself as don't have a rifle, cattle prodder or poker.

Very much doubt holding the end of one of those on a hot plate for 5 minutes the heat would travel several feet to the top.

If it did, use a tea towel/oven gloves

You would need the exact same rifle.

Was a tea towel/oven gloves found in disarray around the kitchen?