Prof Knight on Nevill's back burns.

[Adam]

Exactly Rob!
No comparison whatsoever!

Do you think Bamber & his team were wrong between 2004 - 2012?

[Zoso]

There is absolutely no comparison to the rifle barrel though Adam!
Yes, the marks are burns, but the Aga made them!
Clear as day children, clear as day!

The guy didn't even get the same outcome 

[Zoso]

Please expand on how 'prodding' with a non heated instrument would cause the 3 marks.

Second & final request.

Why would anyone waste time heating the rifle to prod, when they could kick or prod with a sharp implement?

[Adam]

Why would anyone waste time heating the rifle to prod, when they could kick or prod with a sharp implement?

Fowler said it would take 5 minutes to heat the rifle barrel to the required heat. Using an oven plate on the aga.

Which would be quicker than spending hours 'prodding' with a cold instrument until the marks appear.

Do you believe Vanezis was wrong when he said they were '3 distinct burn marks'.

[snow66!]

The guy didn't even get the same outcome 

What with Zoso?
The rifle barrel or the Aga?

[snow66!]

Do you think Bamber & his team were wrong between 2004 - 2012?

About the rifle barrel making the marks , Adam? Of course! We know what made them now!
No more guessing!

[Adam]

If the marks were caused by hours of 'prodding' with a cold instrument, as Prof Knight and CC/Curiosity suggest, then that is called......a bruise.

Perhaps a qualified pathologist such as Vanezis did not notice they were bruise's.

Must admit I have never had a bruise that looked like that.

[Adam]

About the rifle barrel making the marks , Adam? Of course! We know what made them now!
No more guessing!

You can't get burn marks from a cold aga door.

I agree with Bamber's 2004-2012 CCRC submission.

They are burn marks inflicted by an instrument other than a silencer.

[Adam]

I would be surprised if Vanezis noticed the bruise marks on Nevill's body, then suddenly & incorrectly decided the back marks were not bruise's.

He would know the difference.

[snow66!]

You can't get burn marks from a cold aga door.

I agree with Bamber's 2004-2012 CCRC submission.

They are burn marks inflicted by an instrument other than a silencer.

Have you an instrument in mind, Adam?

[Adam]

Have you an instrument in mind, Adam?

Bamber said in 2004-2012 it was from the rifle barrel minus silencer.

It could have been one of the other rifles or silencers in the gun cupboard. Or the poker which was hanging up in the kitchen.

[Adam]

The easiest thing to stand up on a hot aga plate for 5 minutes would be a silencer.

As the CT say 'there was more than one'.

However holding a rifle barrel or poker on a hot aga plate for 5 minutes is not hard.

Zoso suggested a cattle prodder.

As always. Options for Bamber.

[David1819]

Considering the largest mark has a an unburned area in the centre. I don't really see what else could have caused it. Also you can see in the top right that the burn mark is bleeding slightly. There is no blood on the AGA handle as far as I can see.

[snow66!]

Bamber said in 2004-2012 it was from the rifle barrel minus silencer.

It could have been one of the other rifles or silencers in the gun cupboard. Or the poker which was hanging up in the kitchen.

I dont think it was a rifle barrel nor a silencer, Adam!
Else the marks would have been more uniform in shape and size!

[Adam]

I dont think it was a rifle barrel nor a silencer, Adam!
Else the marks would have been more uniform in shape and size!

They are uniform in location.

The difference in size and darkness will be to do with how hot the instrument was.