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Prof Knight on Nevill's back burns.
« on: February 26, 2025, 05:31:PM »
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Re: Prof Knight on Nevill's back burns.
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2025, 05:34:PM »
Prof Knight confirms he did not attend the autopsy with Vanezis.

He is going by photographs and saying a qualified pathologist who did examine the bodies is wrong.

Bamber must have agreed with Prof Knight at trial as he was working for the defence.

However changed his mind for his 2012 and 2021 CCRC referrals.
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Re: Prof Knight on Nevill's back burns.
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2025, 05:39:PM »
Prof Knight says they are 'deep abrasions from prodding'.

Why would anyone prod Nevill's back with such force it inflicted 'deep abrasions'. Three times!
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Re: Prof Knight on Nevill's back burns.
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2025, 05:44:PM »
Prof Knight admits his 'deep abrasion' theory is speculation.

Not sure why the defence were so keen to dispute the burn marks. Maybe they thought the prosecution would claim a more composed Bamber would inflict them.
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Re: Prof Knight on Nevill's back burns.
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2025, 05:48:PM »
He was correct about them being abrasions from prodding, but incorrect about the element of burns.
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Re: Prof Knight on Nevill's back burns.
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2025, 05:48:PM »
Seems the rest of his trial testimony is about Nevill's other injuries. Agreeing the blows to Nevill's head would have caused concussion.
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Re: Prof Knight on Nevill's back burns.
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2025, 05:56:PM »
Prof Knight is what CC/Curosity bases her view that they are not burns on.

I would rather go by the pathologist who examined Nevill. Ditto everyone else in the last 39 years. 
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Re: Prof Knight on Nevill's back burns.
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2025, 05:58:PM »
A blunt instrument can cause bruising, lacerations, concussion, bone breaks, black eyes, grazing. These are documented in Vanezis's report.

However Vanezis says the marks on the back are 'distinct burn marks'.

A cold blunt instrument being used to repeatedly and forcefully prod someone in the same place until a mark arises (3 times) makes no sense. 
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Re: Prof Knight on Nevill's back burns.
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2025, 06:06:PM »
Wonder how long it would take to make a mark from 'prodding' with a cold blunt instrument. Three times.

Minutes, hours?
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Re: Prof Knight on Nevill's back burns.
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2025, 06:16:PM »
Quote from: David1819 on February 26, 2025, 05:48:PM
He was correct about them being abrasions from prodding, but incorrect about the element of burns.

Here's Prof Knight's CV.  Why would anyone choose to accept your opinion over Prof Knight's?  What qualifies you to say he is incorrect and on what basis do you believe he is incorrect?
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Re: Prof Knight on Nevill's back burns.
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2025, 06:33:PM »
Quote from: Adam on February 26, 2025, 05:34:PM
Prof Knight confirms he did not attend the autopsy with Vanezis.

He is going by photographs and saying a qualified pathologist who did examine the bodies is wrong.

Bamber must have agreed with Prof Knight at trial as he was working for the defence.

However changed his mind for his 2012 and 2021 CCRC referrals.

Prof Knight said Dr Vanezis also said he was not sure.
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Re: Prof Knight on Nevill's back burns.
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2025, 07:32:PM »
Quote from: Adam on February 26, 2025, 05:56:PM
Prof Knight is what CC/Curosity bases her view that they are not burns on.

I would rather go by the pathologist who examined Nevill. Ditto everyone else in the last 39 years.

Who is "everyone else"?
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Re: Prof Knight on Nevill's back burns.
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2025, 07:51:PM »
There is a good article in the Doc Maker about the burns/marks on Nevil.

It does look like they were caused by the Aga?

If so we are left with either the police moving Nevil or somehow trying to fit the hours needed to form the marks in to the timeline of events that night?
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Re: Prof Knight on Nevill's back burns.
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2025, 07:53:PM »
Assume Vanezis would know burn marks when he sees them. If not he gets a burns expect in.

Neither Knight or Vanezis believe they were old 1940's war wounds.

Both believe they were from prodding.   
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Re: Prof Knight on Nevill's back burns.
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2025, 08:01:PM »
Quote from: Adam on February 26, 2025, 07:53:PM
Assume Vanezis would know burn marks when he sees them. If not he gets a burns expect in.

Neither Knight or Vanezis believe they were old 1940's war wounds.

Both believe they were from prodding.

Malcom Fletcher believed they were caused by the rifle barrel. He done experiments at Huntington that were not disclosed to the defence.
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