What have Jeremy Bamber's supporters got to hide?

[BarefootDanC]

If it wasn't for Mike none of us would be on this forum.  Mike was a crank imo but he did a stellar job uploading all the documents.  ....

This is my point. Mike uploaded loads of documents, but now his supporters do not want further documents uploaded.

What have they got to hide??

[ILB]

They need to paint him that way, because if they allow the truth - that he hated his parents and was looking forward to spending his inheritance - although this is not actually proof that he carried out the murders, it will lead people to believe he did it.

They lie about JB though, particular yvonne " the jeremy I know is very shy and quiet "

That is the polar opposite of what JB is, he's a confident outspoken character.

[ILB]

If anyone harms his case it is him and his CT:

https://www.thesun.ie/news/264526/mass-murderer-jeremy-bamber-has-bizarre-mothers-day-rant-read-at-grave-of-parents-he-killed-30-years-ago/

The above was in all the tabloids. 

And this:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-33521825

What right thinking person could for one moment think the above could in any way assist JB in terms of what he tells us is a wrongful conviction?  And if it wasn't to assist in terms of a wrongful conviction then what was the purpose?  What was the objective?  How is any of the above relevant?  How could anyone think it would be received positively?  Pray tell?

I too believe he dropped a bollock in doing this to be fair.

It's the kind of idea what sounds good after a few pints.

[Cambridgecutie]

What was the Paul Harrison fiasco? This was before I knew about this case.

A book author who was somewhat of a Walter Mitty character.  He claimed to have been a serving police officer during the 70's/80's and was going to write the 'definitive' book about the case with 'bombshell' new evidence.  I don't like to say 'I told you so' but there was nothing in his background to suggest he had the gravitas for this.  His prior book writing attempts were about various subjects including football and an autobiography that was weird to say the least.  I thought he was a charlatan but many were taken in including JB.  Harrison had a habit of including the deceased in his books who obviously were unable to corroborate giving him carte blanche to 'quote' from meetings and interviews.  Eg in his Bamber book he 'quoted' from meetings with the late Ed Lawson QC and the late DS Jones    Anyway it resulted in the following after a very poor quality book:

https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/23847427.carlisle-authors-bogus-claims-feature-bbc-programme/

[BarefootDanC]

I too believe he dropped a bollock in doing this to be fair.

It's the kind of idea what sounds good after a few pints.

It's part of a deluded attempt to portray Jeremy as someone who loved his family, whereas people who knew him at the time said the opposite, that he hated his family.

[Cambridgecutie]

It's part of a deluded attempt to portray Jeremy as someone who loved his family, whereas people who knew him at the time said the opposite, that he hated his family.

That's not actually true.  Those who had something to gain either materially or absolving themselves of criminal records made such comments.  Those who had nothing to gain made no such comments such as JB's former live-in girlfriend Suzette Ford.

Both SC and JB had a difficult relationship with June who would never be allowed to adopt today given her long history of psychiatric issuse before SC or JB were even conceived.  Both had a good relationship with NB and an amicable relationship between the siblings.  CC and the twins also had a difficult relationship with June.  Have you read CC's letter written but not sent to NB?  Its in the library here. 

[ILB]

It's part of a deluded attempt to portray Jeremy as someone who loved his family, whereas people who knew him at the time said the opposite, that he hated his family.

That's not true. He did have a good relationship with Nevill.

In regards to shelia they were close when younger, but drifted apart and mixed in different circles. Pretty normal to be honest.

Accept he had a difficult relationship with June, so did Shelia.

[Cambridgecutie]

They lie about JB though, particular yvonne " the jeremy I know is very shy and quiet "

That is the polar opposite of what JB is, he's a confident outspoken character.

It's her perception of him and your perception of him.  No right or wrong unless you're a pyschologist/phychiatrist undertaking psychometric testing to place him on a spectrum with regard to various personality traits. 

I recently posted up my perception of him and you disagreed. 

[Jane]

They lie about JB though, particular yvonne " the jeremy I know is very shy and quiet "

That is the polar opposite of what JB is, he's a confident outspoken character.

But "shy and quiet" is probably how he wanted her to see him, thus he presented himself, to her, as such.

[ILB]

It's her perception of him and your perception of him.  No right or wrong unless you're a pyschologist/phychiatrist undertaking psychometric testing to place him on a spectrum with regard to various personality traits. 

I recently posted up my perception of him and you disagreed.

You would argue Cardiff is the capital of Syria.

[Cambridgecutie]

You would argue Cardiff is the capital of Syria.

Why would I argue Cardiff is the capital of Syria when it is quite clear Damascus is:

https://unstats.un.org/unsd/geoinfo/ungegn/docs/geoname.pdf

You seem to struggle with objective and subjective data.  Objective data is based on hard facts accepted by most eg Damascus is the capital of Syria.  Subjective data is based on personal opinion, preferences etc where there are no right or wrong answers eg you think JB is a good looking guy and mentally strong.  Whereas I see him differently.  Yvonne sees him differently to how we view him.

[ILB]

Why would I argue Cardiff is the capital of Syria when it is quite clear Damascus is:

https://unstats.un.org/unsd/geoinfo/ungegn/docs/geoname.pdf

You seem to struggle with objective and subjective data.  Objective data is based on hard facts accepted by most eg Damascus is the capital of Syria.  Subjective data is based on personal opinion, preferences etc where there are no right or wrong answers eg you think JB is a good looking guy and mentally strong.  Whereas I see him differently.  Yvonne sees him differently to how we view him.

I see things in black and white. I have no struggles in life.

[Cambridgecutie]

I see things in black and white. I have no struggles in life.

https://www.embarkbh.com/blog/mental-health/all-or-nothing-thinking/#:~:text=All%2Dor%2Dnothing%20thinking%20%E2%80%94,thinking%20mistakes%2C%E2%80%9D%20Girimonti%20explained.

All-or-nothing thinking — also known as black-and-white thinking and dichotomous thinking — is a common cognitive distortion that frequently happens to people with anxiety-related issues. 

“Cognitive distortions are basically thinking mistakes,” Girimonti explained.

[Cambridgecutie]

https://www.embarkbh.com/blog/mental-health/all-or-nothing-thinking/#:~:text=All%2Dor%2Dnothing%20thinking%20%E2%80%94,thinking%20mistakes%2C%E2%80%9D%20Girimonti%20explained.

All-or-nothing thinking — also known as black-and-white thinking and dichotomous thinking — is a common cognitive distortion that frequently happens to people with anxiety-related issues. 

“Cognitive distortions are basically thinking mistakes,” Girimonti explained.

https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/black-and-white-thinking

[ILB]

https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/black-and-white-thinking

Thank you for that.

I've never been known to have anxiety but have frequently been accused of causing it in my time. So it's nice to see things from the opposite end.