'You may be hearing from me later'

[ILB]

Even Monica Lewinsky had a semen stain!

I believe Bill 

[Cambridgecutie]

What do you believe about the fielder incident?

Grubby little hack.

[Cambridgecutie]

I believe Bill 

Who cares?  Attractive young single woman gives a good looking and charismatic US president a blow job in the Oval Office.  Not very nice for Hilary, if it is true, but as a good male friend of mine always tells me...a standing cock has no conscience!

[handymanz]

Interesting how the Sun newspaper publishes a story giving jilted Julie a motive to throw JB under the bus. After it's sister publication 'The News of the World' had given JM 25K conditional on her story leading to a conviction. Did Murdoch decide to have a bob each way.

[Steve_uk]

Interesting how the Sun newspaper publishes a story giving jilted Julie a motive to throw JB under the bus. After it's sister publication 'The News of the World' had given JM 25K conditional on her story leading to a conviction. Did Murdoch decide to have a bob each way.

Yes, because Jeremy had a deal were he to be acquitted.

[ILB]

Call that evidence? 

I call it a reason Julie may have been upset.

[Cambridgecutie]

I call it a reason Julie may have been upset.

Well a) it doesn't stack up with all the wit stats and b) he was not committed to her by way of engagement, marriage, children, property etc.  They were simply boyfriend and girlfriend.  JM had a night out on the town with Liz and ended up doing coke in a hotel room with a couple of guys.  They were young people finding themselves 

[ILB]

Well a) it doesn't stack up with all the wit stats and b) he was not committed to her by way of engagement, marriage, children, property etc.  They were simply boyfriend and girlfriend.  JM had a night out on the town with Liz and ended up doing coke in a hotel room with a couple of guys.  They were young people finding themselves 

Have to look at all angles.

[ILB]

Well a) it doesn't stack up with all the wit stats and b) he was not committed to her by way of engagement, marriage, children, property etc.  They were simply boyfriend and girlfriend.  JM had a night out on the town with Liz and ended up doing coke in a hotel room with a couple of guys.  They were young people finding themselves 

Do you believe JM was much more in love with JB than vice versa?

[Cambridgecutie]

Do you believe JM was much more in love with JB than vice versa?

Love?  Oh pleeze do me a favour    I think she was focused on her ed and career.  Has she have wanted to snare him she could have stopped taking the pill. 

[ILB]

Love?  Oh pleeze do me a favour    I think she was focused on her ed and career.  Has she have wanted to snare him she could have stopped taking the pill.

Well the only thing we have is Brainwashing Jones at the moment. Which I am skeptical about.

[Adam]

Well a) it doesn't stack up with all the wit stats and b) he was not committed to her by way of engagement, marriage, children, property etc.  They were simply boyfriend and girlfriend.  JM had a night out on the town with Liz and ended up doing coke in a hotel room with a couple of guys.  They were young people finding themselves 

Stan Jones & Chris Bews deny everything.

[Cambridgecutie]

Well the only thing we have is Brainwashing Jones at the moment. Which I am skeptical about.

And I'm scepital about the scorned woman theory.  They appear to have parted on good terms eg with him helping her move and dropping her off in the West End for a night out on the town with LR.  She had her own life to lead, finishing her ed and a career to pursue, she wasn't dependant on JB for anything.  They were only known to one another for some 18 months.  Their lives were not intertwined by way of marriage, children, property etc so easy to make a clean break and move on.

And the scorned woman theory doesn't explain how other witnesses got on board but DS Jones using the drugs angle does.  You claim to be an ex-con so you will surely have some understanding of how the police fit up suspects particularly pre PACE when they pretty much had carte blanche. 

I am looking forward to re-reading JM's trial testimony.  Thanks.

[Adam]

And I'm scepital about the scorned woman theory.  They appear to have parted on good terms eg with him helping her move and dropping her off in the West End for a night out on the town with LR.  She had her own life to lead, finishing her ed and a career to pursue, she wasn't dependant on JB for anything.  They were only known to one another for some 18 months.  Their lives were not intertwined by way of marriage, children, property etc so easy to make a clean break and move on.

And the scorned woman theory doesn't explain how other witnesses got on board but DS Jones using the drugs angle does.  You claim to be an ex-con so you will surely have some understanding of how the police fit up suspects particularly pre PACE when they pretty much had carte blanche. 

I am looking forward to re-reading JM's trial testimony.  Thanks.

Agree JM was not a scorned woman.

SJ could not force her to complete her 23 page WS in 24 hours because of any other crimes. He did not know about them.

[ILB]

And I'm scepital about the scorned woman theory.  They appear to have parted on good terms eg with him helping her move and dropping her off in the West End for a night out on the town with LR.  She had her own life to lead, finishing her ed and a career to pursue, she wasn't dependant on JB for anything.  They were only known to one another for some 18 months.  Their lives were not intertwined by way of marriage, children, property etc so easy to make a clean break and move on.

And the scorned woman theory doesn't explain how other witnesses got on board but DS Jones using the drugs angle does.  You claim to be an ex-con so you will surely have some understanding of how the police fit up suspects particularly pre PACE when they pretty much had carte blanche. 

Yes I am a victim as a teenager of police corruptions in the 1980s and yes it did exist. And yes they were carte blanche. However until you can find some solid evidence of DS Jones brainwashing or bullying or anything in regards to Mugford it will just be deemed as pie in the sky. When I say you I mean Jeremy Bamber and his legal team himself.