Did DS Jones Weaponise JM?

[Cambridgecutie]

Mugford approached DS Jones.

You have no evidence whatsoever for this.

[ILB]

You have no evidence whatsoever for this.

[ILB]

As said if evidence comes to light of DS Jones threatening Mugford the spiel that was said, I stand corrected.

It has been 40 years.

[Cambridgecutie]

Exactly.  No evidence.

[ILB]

Exactly.  No evidence.

Plenty of evidence.

[David1819]

As said if evidence comes to light of DS Jones threatening Mugford the spiel that was said, I stand corrected.

It has been 40 years.

Stan Jones was aware of many facts of the crime that are contrary to what Julie later claimed.

[Cambridgecutie]

Plenty of evidence.

Stop being silly.  A typed excerpt is not evidence of anything.  Where are the digital time stamps in terms of calls made/received?  Where are the tape recordings of interviews?  Where are the verbatim transcripts signed in the presence of a solicitor?

[ILB]

Stop being silly.  A typed excerpt is not evidence of anything.  Where are the digital time stamps in terms of calls made/received?  Where are the tape recordings of interviews?  Where are the verbatim transcripts signed in the presence of a solicitor?

Agree with this where are they?

However I doubt you'd uncover any tape recordings. PACE 1984 wasn't been practiced and didn't come into effect until after. Hence JB wasn't on record.

[Cambridgecutie]

Agree with this where are they?

However I doubt you'd uncover any tape recordings. PACE 1984 wasn't been practiced and didn't come into effect until after. Hence JB wasn't on record.

JB's interviews were conducted in the presence of a solicitor. 

Surely anyone and everyone can see what went on based on her 2002 wit stats?

[ILB]

JB's interviews were conducted in the presence of a solicitor. 

JB was under caution and was being interviewed due to being suspected of murdering 5 people.

[Cambridgecutie]

JB was under caution and was being interviewed due to being suspected of murdering 5 people.

Yes but they are reliable in terms of what was said wasn't said as a solicitor was present. 

[Adam]

No they were not true!  The pathologist made it clear SC could have shot herself twice.  And in the absence of digital footprints timings of phone calls are approx.  DS Jones' mindset on these aspects can be seen from JB's interviews.  Contrast the interview set up between JB and JM in terms of venue, solicitor in attendance, verbatim transcripts.

She needed to work with DS Jones on his truth to save her skin.

The police were certainly suspiscious by the 8th September 1985.

Forensic evidence was being processed. Not just on the silencer. But on other things showing Sheila was not the killer.

The relatives had been pressuring Taff. Assume Ainsley had taken over. 

[Adam]

SJ would have told Julie withholding evidence is a serious offence.

He would have also told her if she now starts offerring new information which is false, that is just as serious.

Her 23 page WS was then completed within 24 hours.

[Adam]

Not sure if SJ would have been allowed to tell Julie that Bamber or anyone else was a suspect.

He may have just been allowed to say the investigation is still ongoing.