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Re: Refer or not!
« Reply #90 on: February 11, 2025, 09:34:AM »
I don't expect you to be impressed. I am just interested as to when JBs interviews took place without a solicitor. This is what Lomax claims JB told him.

Unless Lomax is bullshitting.

You can see from the statements in the library here which ones were with/without a solicitor present.
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« Reply #91 on: February 11, 2025, 09:36:AM »
No but I'm sure in that year period Mary Mugford and Julie Mugford met and spoke on plenty of occasions, mother and daughter.

Funny how she didn't unburden herself to her mother. Guess Mary is in on it too.

Why would she unburden herself if DS Jones did a good job?  She refers to her mother in her 2002 wit stats stating that she was not even allowed to contact her mother.
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« Reply #92 on: February 11, 2025, 09:36:AM »
You can see from the statements in the library here which ones were with/without a solicitor present.

Yes I have read the transcripts on many occasions.

He had legal representation throughout them all, Pirie and Bowler.

Which contrasts with his claim to have been interviewed without legal representation.

Unless other interviews took place at a point in time.
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« Reply #93 on: February 11, 2025, 09:37:AM »
I don't expect you to be impressed. I am just interested as to when JBs interviews took place without a solicitor. This is what Lomax claims JB told him.

Unless Lomax is bullshitting.

He did not have solicitor in his interviews on the 8th and 9th of September. But he did on the 10th, 11th and 12th.

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« Reply #94 on: February 11, 2025, 09:37:AM »
Why would she unburden herself if DS Jones did a good job?  She refers to her mother in her 2002 wit stats stating that she was not even allowed to contact her mother.

I don't tend to believe that to be true. She was a witness, she wasn't on bail with conditions facing charges. It would be a deprivation of freedoms.
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« Reply #95 on: February 11, 2025, 09:39:AM »
I don't tend to believe that to be true. She was a witness, she wasn't on bail with conditions facing charges. It would be a deprivation of freedoms.

According to her 2002 wit stats she was not allowed contact with the outside world including her mother.
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« Reply #96 on: February 11, 2025, 09:40:AM »
He did not have solicitor in his interviews on the 8th and 9th of September. But he did on the 10th, 11th and 12th.

Correct Dave, I have just re read. Taff conducted them. Seem more like a fact finding excersise than a grilling.
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« Reply #97 on: February 11, 2025, 09:41:AM »
According to her 2002 wit stats she was not allowed contact with the outside world including her mother.

Outside world?

Bamber was banged up on remand.

Jesus, who they were afraid would get to her?
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« Reply #98 on: February 11, 2025, 09:49:AM »
Outside world?

Bamber was banged up on remand.

Jesus, who they were afraid would get to her?

We are talking why she was brainwashed and holed up in the police training college.  You really need to read the material CAREFULLY.
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Re: Refer or not!
« Reply #100 on: February 11, 2025, 01:30:PM »
Bamber will never prove his innocence. The police, relatives, experts, legal system & JM will never retract.

However he would have been more than happy with a release on a technicality since 1986. And more than happy now.

Upon any release, he can start touting the media for deals. Himself & his supporters can say the release on a technicality proves his innocence.
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« Reply #101 on: February 11, 2025, 03:57:PM »
Bamber will never prove his innocence. The police, relatives, experts, legal system & JM will never retract.

However he would have been more than happy with a release on a technicality since 1986. And more than happy now.

Upon any release, he can start touting the media for deals. Himself & his supporters can say the release on a technicality proves his innocence.
Now now Adam! You dont know what JB would be happy with or what he is thinking!


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« Reply #103 on: February 11, 2025, 07:34:PM »
If released he'll probably end up the same as David Baine. Down here in NZ half the population still think he's guilty.
But what ever happens I cannot see Mr Bamber getting the re-trial which he should have got decades ago.
They are sensible people then. I thought he might end up in Australia. The climate has more in common with Papua New Guinea.

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« Reply #104 on: February 12, 2025, 10:44:AM »
Bamber will never prove his innocence. The police, relatives, experts, legal system & JM will never retract.

However he would have been more than happy with a release on a technicality since 1986. And more than happy now.

Upon any release, he can start touting the media for deals. Himself & his supporters can say the release on a technicality proves his innocence.

I would imagine at 64 and with time slipping by he just wants out by any means nessecary. So I do agree with you in that sense.
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