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Re: This is the area where I think the police originally found Shela?
« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2011, 06:04:PM »
Personally I don´t think it is a sunray through a window, it is too bright. You would be able to see some of the colouring of the stone floor, just a little brighter.
I don´t know what this is. Sawdust? Could be, but that is just a guess (and if it was, wouldn´t it absorb blood and take colour from it?) - it could be paint spilled, anything really.
I can´t see either that you can deduct that it was a rifle that left a mark, and by the way, the mark looks like V mark to me.

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Re: This is the area where I think the police originally found Shela?
« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2011, 06:17:PM »
I think we all may be making this feature more important than it really is. In my estimation there is nothing in it that connects it to any crime whatsoever. But then why take the picture?

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Re: This is the area where I think the police originally found Shela?
« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2011, 06:19:PM »
happy yorkshire day.

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Re: This is the area where I think the police originally found Shela?
« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2011, 06:24:PM »
happy yorkshire day.
:) We are about to have Yorkshire Pudding.

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Re: This is the area where I think the police originally found Shela?
« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2011, 06:25:PM »
Yea, happy yorkshire day - whatever that is!!  :P




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« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2011, 06:26:PM »
excellent choice grahame..enjoy

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« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2011, 06:27:PM »
Yea, happy yorkshire day - whatever that is!!  :P



yorkshire is the biggest county in england, im from there!!  its just a day to celebrate everything yorkshire  :)

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Re: This is the area where I think the police originally found Shela?
« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2011, 06:34:PM »
i thought that room where the sawdust/sunlight  is, thought it was bricked up, one of the windows is bricked up.

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Re: This is the area where I think the police originally found Shela?
« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2011, 07:22:PM »
Yea, happy yorkshire day - whatever that is!!  :P
Eee bar gum. You haven't lived if you haven't bin ta Yorkshire. ;D

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« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2011, 07:24:PM »
get ya sen up ere sither  ;)

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Re: This is the area where I think the police originally found Shela?
« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2011, 12:24:AM »
The Pantry or back kitchen as it was sometimes referred to, according to Jeremy...

PC Collins would have had a view into the pantry area from his vantage point outside the kitchen window, and the female body he saw was behind the internal door, which connected both adjoining rooms, that was partially open at that stage...


Is there someone who could check over this picture for me?  I only have a jewellers loupe, which is no use, but I'm convinced there is writing on the floor, in 3 places. 

At the bottom of the picture, one tile away on the right, from the casserole dish, looks to me like 3 initials, possibly, C,F,L.

Where the casserole handle is on the right, also looks like writings/scribbles, I cant make out.

If you have a laptop and turn it upside down, on the left of the indentation, it looks to me like several capital letters.

Is there any way this could be checked out? Changing the zoom level hasnt helped, but maybe if someone is good with computers they might have an idea as to enlarging the picture or something.

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Re: This is the area where I think the police originally found Shela?
« Reply #41 on: August 02, 2011, 01:12:AM »
I'm not convinced that it is sunlight in these pictures.  I'm also not convinced it is the indentation of a rifle butt.  Would a rifle butt not be flat and smooth?  If a rifle were to be propped up against something would it not leave a solid shape, if it were sat on top of sand/sawdust?  Would it not be very difficult to prop up a rifle in an upright position, with the slim part of the butt on the floor, without it toppling over?  If it were propped up against something, the butt (side on) it would leave a longer different shape.

I'm assuming that this would normally have been a cool and dark room, no matter what time of the day it was.  Is it possible the light and shadows etc are to do with the photographers equipment, perhaps a free standing light, which could be moved around for certain shots, or one of those big flash types the paparazzi would use?
« Last Edit: August 02, 2011, 10:03:AM by OnceSaid »

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Re: This is the area where I think the police originally found Shela?
« Reply #42 on: August 02, 2011, 01:17:AM »
The Pantry or back kitchen as it was sometimes referred to, according to Jeremy...

PC Collins would have had a view into the pantry area from his vantage point outside the kitchen window, and the female body he saw was behind the internal door, which connected both adjoining rooms, that was partially open at that stage...


Is there someone who could check over this picture for me?  I only have a jewellers loupe, which is no use, but I'm convinced there is writing on the floor, in 3 places. 

At the bottom of the picture, one tile away on the right, from the casserole dish, looks to me like 3 initials, possibly, C,F,L.

Where the casserole handle is on the right, also looks like writings/scribbles, I cant make out.

If you have a laptop and turn it upside down, on the left of the indentation, it looks to me like several capital letters.

Is there any way this could be checked out? Changing the zoom level hasnt helped, but maybe if someone is good with computers they might have an idea as to enlarging the picture or something.


I can only make out one set of letters:

CRC?

Colin R Caffell?

But our minds seek to create meaningful order out of chaos. These letters might exist only in our mind's attempt to find meaning in patterns.

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Re: This is the area where I think the police originally found Shela?
« Reply #43 on: August 02, 2011, 02:57:AM »
The sighting oe the female, behind the kitchen door, from the vantage pnint of PC Collins, outside the kitchen window, suddenly takes on new significance and meaning, once you are aware of where Sheila bled on the concrete pantry floor!!!
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Re: This is the area where I think the police originally found Shela?
« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2011, 03:12:AM »
PC Collins does not say, that he specifically saw Sheila Caffell behind the internal kitchen door - he simply refers to the body he saw at that stage, as a female body. The reason he was able to be so specific, now becomes so obvious?
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...