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Offline ngb1066

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Re: Two moderators?
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2025, 09:34:AM »
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mass-murderer-jeremy-bamber-hopes-34596299
Is it common practice for a firearm to have 2 moderators?

No.  There were two rifles of the same calibre kept at WHF and each had a sound moderator.


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Re: Two moderators?
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2025, 09:37:AM »
It was originally in the English M/C Murder Casebook series no.7, as in the photo below I've just copied, then probably featured in a French translated version.  It's one of series originally taken by the APA at the time of the murders, like the one of an officer/detective retrieving evidence from Nevill's car outside Bourtree cottage.

The white-painted woodwork is reminiscent of that at WHF, maybe of a store room/walk-in cupboard?  Or the small Cup'd in the hallway adjacent to the Bottle Cupboard?

If he isn't a police officer, have you any idea who it might be?

That photograph was not taken at WHF and the person in the photo is not connected with the case.  He is probably a journalist.


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Re: Two moderators?
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2025, 11:14:AM »
That photograph was not taken at WHF and the person in the photo is not connected with the case.  He is probably a journalist.

Which probably explains what appears to be an absence of insignia on the 'uniform'.
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: Two moderators?
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2025, 11:34:AM »
Why couldn't the prosecution have just dismissed the silencer found by the Police on the day, as having no forensic evidence linking it to the killings, then just go ahead using the silencer retrieved by David Boutflour on August 10 as its evidence?

What evidence exists the police found a silencer on the day?
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: Two moderators?
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2025, 11:37:AM »
It was originally in the English M/C Murder Casebook series no.7, as in the photo below I've just copied, then probably featured in a French translated version.  It's one of series originally taken by the APA at the time of the murders,like the one of an officer/detective retrieving evidence from Nevill's car outside Bourtree cottage.

The white-painted woodwork is reminiscent of that at WHF, maybe of a store room/walk-in cupboard?  Or the small Cup'd in the hallway adjacent to the Bottle Cupboard?

If he isn't a police officer, have you any idea who it might be?

I assumed that was a forensic officer from FSS, Huntingdon?
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Re: Two moderators?
« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2025, 12:08:PM »
No this was a photo staged for the article.

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Re: Two moderators?
« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2025, 12:35:PM »
It should be possible to work out from the allegation document, and statements by police officers and relatives, any windows of opportunity for a different sound moderator to be collected or provided to police. There is a a chain of custody for the sound moderator singular, and it cannot be in two places at once. Therefore there must have been more than one.

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Re: Two moderators?
« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2025, 12:48:PM »
The key to this is the allegation document from about 10 years ago. It shows that the chain of custody for a single sound moderator is not possible. The sound moderator was in two different places at the same time.

Also why would Stan Jones obtain an exhibit reference of SBJ1 for the silencer found by David Boutflour, if he knew he himself was not the person who found the exhibit? Surely he knew how exhibits protocol worked?

No, it does not.

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Re: Two moderators?
« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2025, 12:50:PM »
No, it does not.

OK we let's at least examine that document in respect of the sound moderator. It's worth going over just for clarity?

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Re: Two moderators?
« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2025, 01:02:PM »
What evidence exists the police found a silencer on the day?

If officers found a silencer on the day why would it not be added to the list of other exihibits?  Soc officers were at WHF until noon 9th Aug.

Why has no officer mentioned the finding of a silencer between 7th Aug and 9th Aug when WHF was considered a soc?
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Re: Two moderators?
« Reply #25 on: February 04, 2025, 01:17:PM »
Which probably explains what appears to be an absence of insignia on the 'uniform'.
If he's a plain-clothes detective in Carnaby Street gear, obviously.
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Re: Two moderators?
« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2025, 01:21:PM »
I assumed that was a forensic officer from FSS, Huntingdon?
No, just a middle-aged detective from Essex Police, with what could be an empty whisky bottle box donated by Stan the Man!
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Re: Two moderators?
« Reply #27 on: February 04, 2025, 01:43:PM »
No, just a middle-aged detective from Essex Police, with what could be an empty whisky bottle box donated by Stan the Man!

Lol!  Well spotted.

The article refers to the blue Citroen as JB's car so we can see it isn't reliable. 

I thought NB would have bought British as people tended to do back in the day. 
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Re: Two moderators?
« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2025, 02:00:PM »
Lol!  Well spotted.

The article refers to the blue Citroen as JB's car so we can see it isn't reliable. 

I thought NB would have bought British as people tended to do back in the day.
But JB did sequester it to replace his clapped-out Astra, just like he swapped tiny Bourtree for Sheila's luxurious Morshead flat, hence the confusion.
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Re: Two moderators?
« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2025, 02:35:PM »
OK we let's at least examine that document in respect of the sound moderator. It's worth going over just for clarity?

I have gone over this "document" with you several times over the years already. If you have done a CC/Curiosity like your profile picture suggests. I am not wasting my time going over it for a third time.