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Offline mike tesko

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Proof that Sheila was only shot once in the bedroom, and at the time she was shot she was standing upright

Essex police destroyed this piece of bedroom carpet because it contained evidence and proof that Sheila was standing upright when she was fatally shot under the chin, and that she fell back onto the bed...

Similarly, blanket on bed upon which Sheila fell once she was shot once under the chin in the bedroom, was also destroyed in the same bonfire in the grounds of whf (destroyed by the police)...
« Last Edit: July 31, 2011, 01:44:PM by mike tesko »
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Solitary circular shaped bloodstain and trail that does not correspond to the position of Sheila's neck injuries, which lead off into the direction of the bed...

Essex police did not intend for Jeremy to ever see this photograph, it was not part of the MASTER COPY, or the COURT Albums (but part of the senior investigating officers album)...
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Where is the second blood trail from the second shot in the bedroom, if Sheila was shot twice there?

The circular bloodstain on the bedroom carpet cannot be reconciled with the position of Sheila's body in the stage managed photogra9h, and the actual direction with which the blood flows from the wounds on Sheila's neck, and the other staining on her nightdress...

Police destroyed the carpet with this very unique and distinctive bloodstain upon it, which would have been crucial to other experts whose job it would have been to determine how Sheila came to die in the bedroom...

So why destroy this crucial piece of evidence?

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I still think that those blood trails down her arm could be caused when she possibly tried to staunch the blood coming from the first would in her neck?

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I still think that those blood trails down her arm could be caused when she possibly tried to staunch the blood coming from the first would in her neck?
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What poses could Sheila have adopted if she shot herself whilst stood upright?

Here are views of model, Amy Holland, stood upright with silencer attached to barrel of gun, to demonstrate that evidence given to jury about length of weapon being much too long to allow Sheila an opportunity  to shoot herself by use of it, so configured was inaccurate, and misleading...
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I still think that those blood trails down her arm could be caused when she possibly tried to staunch the blood coming from the first would in her neck?
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So you are both now persuing the belief that she did not shoot herself? Unless you are absolutely certain the police shot her then this would seem to be a dangerous avenue to go down for a couple of pro-Bambers!

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What poses could Sheila have adopted if she shot herself whilst stood upright?

Here are views of model, Amy Holland, stood upright with silencer attached to barrel of gun, to demonstrate that evidence given to jury about length of weapon being much too long to allow Sheila an opportunity  to shoot herself by use of it, so configured was inaccurate, and misleading...
Why was this reenactment done with the silencer on? She can't have killed herself with the silencer on and then taken it off and put it in the gun cupboard, so surely the defence should have just persued the argument that the silencer wasn't on the gun when she shot herself?
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I still think that those blood trails down her arm could be caused when she possibly tried to staunch the blood coming from the first would in her neck?
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So you are both now persuing the belief that she did not shoot herself? Unless you are absolutely certain the police shot her then this would seem to be a dangerous avenue to go down for a couple of pro-Bambers!
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The blood trails on Sheila's right forearm could have got there, when she used the fingers of her right hand to hold against the initial wound to the side of the neck, in keeping with Professor McDonnell's conclusions in one of his earlier reports - irrespective of whether she shot herself, or if somebody else shot her...

The poses adopted by Amy Holland, in the attached photographs would produce the circular bloodstain that was found on the bedroom carpet, from the wound u nder the chin...
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I still think that those blood trails down her arm could be caused when she possibly tried to staunch the blood coming from the first would in her neck?
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So you are both now persuing the belief that she did not shoot herself? Unless you are absolutely certain the police shot her then this would seem to be a dangerous avenue to go down for a couple of pro-Bambers!
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The blood trails on Sheila's right forearm could have got there, when she used the fingers of her right hand to hold against the initial wound to the side of the neck, in keeping with Professor McDonnell's conclusions in one of his earlier reports - irrespective of whether she shot herself, or if somebody else shot her...

The poses adopted by Amy Holland, in the attached photographs would produce the circular bloodstain that was found on the bedroom carpet, from the wound u nder the chin...

I had thought the circular pattern on the floor was due to her having stood in that area with the first non-fatal wound bleeding.  Where does this leave the 'on the bed' scenario?

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What poses could Sheila have adopted if she shot herself whilst stood upright?

Here are views of model, Amy Holland, stood upright with silencer attached to barrel of gun, to demonstrate that evidence given to jury about length of weapon being much too long to allow Sheila an opportunity  to shoot herself by use of it, so configured was inaccurate, and misleading...
Why was this reenactment done with the silencer on? She can't have killed herself with the silencer on and then taken it off and put it in the gun cupboard, so surely the defence should have just persued the argument that the silencer wasn't on the gun when she shot herself?
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Photographs were taken with the silencer attached, and not attached...

Primarily, the ones taken with the silencer attached, were taken to demonstrate that the court was deceived into believing that with the silencer attached to the guns barrel, the overall length of the weapon would have been too long to allow Shela an opportunity to kill herself by use of the weapon so configured, when all along the photographs prove that it would have or could have been possible?

It would have been much easier for Sheila to shoot herself stood upright without the silencer attached to the guns barrel...

The circular bloodstain on the bedroom carpet, could have been made by Sheila being stood upright at the time she received the shot under the chin, that's what I am saying...
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What poses could Sheila have adopted if she shot herself whilst stood upright?

Here are views of model, Amy Holland, stood upright with silencer attached to barrel of gun, to demonstrate that evidence given to jury about length of weapon being much too long to allow Sheila an opportunity  to shoot herself by use of it, so configured was inaccurate, and misleading...
Why was this reenactment done with the silencer on? She can't have killed herself with the silencer on and then taken it off and put it in the gun cupboard, so surely the defence should have just persued the argument that the silencer wasn't on the gun when she shot herself?
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Photographs were taken with the silencer attached, and not attached...

Primarily, the ones taken with the silencer attached, were taken to demonstrate that the court was deceived into believing that with the silencer attached to the guns barrel, the overall length of the weapon would have been too long to allow Shela an opportunity to kill herself by use of the weapon so configured, when all along the photographs prove that it would have or could have been possible?

It would have been much easier for Sheila to shoot herself stood upright without the silencer attached to the guns barrel...

The circular bloodstain on the bedroom carpet, could have been made by Sheila being stood upright at the time she received the shot under the chin, that's what I am saying...
Thanks Mike. Is this area of the house near the top of the stairs? I am thinking that if she was shot under the chin by someone else, whilst standing up, then the most likely way for this to happen is for the assailant to be climbing the stairs at the time - if they were on level ground it would be an unlikely angle to get shot at.

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I still think that those blood trails down her arm could be caused when she possibly tried to staunch the blood coming from the first would in her neck?
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So you are both now persuing the belief that she did not shoot herself? Unless you are absolutely certain the police shot her then this would seem to be a dangerous avenue to go down for a couple of pro-Bambers!
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The blood trails on Sheila's right forearm could have got there, when she used the fingers of her right hand to hold against the initial wound to the side of the neck, in keeping with Professor McDonnell's conclusions in one of his earlier reports - irrespective of whether she shot herself, or if somebody else shot her...

The poses adopted by Amy Holland, in the attached photographs would produce the circular bloodstain that was found on the bedroom carpet, from the wound u nder the chin...

I had thought the circular pattern on the floor was due to her having stood in that area with the first non-fatal wound bleeding.  Where does this leave the 'on the bed' scenario?
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If circular bloodstain on bedroom carpet was made when Sheila received the non fatal shot to the side of the neck and fell back onto the bed, that would mean that when the police found Sheila downstiars at 7:37am, onwards, upon entry into the farmhouse, that she had already been killed and was dead at that time?

How then, would she have managed to get upstarts to lay down  on the bed, or the bedroom floor, or be in a position to receive the non fatal shot at all in the bedroom, since, if you are dead downstiars in the region of the kitchen, you could not very well walk upstairs and shoot yourself non fatally in the side of the neck afterwards...
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I still think that those blood trails down her arm could be caused when she possibly tried to staunch the blood coming from the first would in her neck?
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So you are both now persuing the belief that she did not shoot herself? Unless you are absolutely certain the police shot her then this would seem to be a dangerous avenue to go down for a couple of pro-Bambers!
Not at all bob. When her first attempt failed she could have tried to stop the bleeding with her hand the one with blood stains on, which the police report was careful to say that her hands were clean. Only a theory of course?

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What poses could Sheila have adopted if she shot herself whilst stood upright?

Here are views of model, Amy Holland, stood upright with silencer attached to barrel of gun, to demonstrate that evidence given to jury about length of weapon being much too long to allow Sheila an opportunity  to shoot herself by use of it, so configured was inaccurate, and misleading...
Why was this reenactment done with the silencer on? She can't have killed herself with the silencer on and then taken it off and put it in the gun cupboard, so surely the defence should have just persued the argument that the silencer wasn't on the gun when she shot herself?
Yes I was thinking that.