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Offline mike tesko

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False photographic records produced by PC Bird (SOC)

PC David Bird (SOC) claimed there was only 223 photographs in the MASTER COPY ALBUM, but we now know there were at least 358 in another album kept in ACC Peter Simpsons safe at Headquarters - why did PC Bird lie about how many pictures existed in connection with the case?
« Last Edit: July 30, 2011, 11:15:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: False photographic records produced by PC Bird (SOC)...
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2011, 11:21:PM »
Court Album - So called Master copy album

01 - 4a (7th August 1985)
02 - 14 (7th August 1985)
03 - 220 (26th November 1985)
04 - 20 (7th August 1985)
05 - 21 (7th August 1985)
06 - 24 (7th August 1985)
07 - 26 (7th August 1985)
08 - 23 (7th August 1985)
09 - 151 (12th September 1985)
10 - 25 (7th August 1985)
11 - 20a (7th August 1985)
12 - 134 (11th September 1985)
13 - 27 (7th August 1985)
14 - 28 (7th august 1985)
15 - 29 (7th August 1985)
16 - 30 (7th August 1985)
17 - 31 (7th August 1985)
18 - 32 (7th August 1985)
19 - 39 (7th August 1985)
20 - 40 (7th august 1985)
21 - 214 (1st October 1985)
22 - 58 (7th August 1985)
23 - 59 (7th August 1985)
24 - 62 (7th August 1985)
25 - 63 (7th August 1985)
26 - 64 (7th August 1985)
27 - 68 (7th August 1985)
28 - 68a (7th August 1985)
29 - 69 (7th August 1985)
30 - 70 (7th August 1985)
31 - 71 (7th August 1985)
32 - 72 (7th August 1985)
33 - 73 (7th August 1985)
34 - 78 (7th August 1985)
35 - 77 (7th August 1985)
36 - 74 (7th August 1985)
37 - 75 (7th August 1985)
38 - 76 (7th August 1985)
39 - 67 (7th August 1985)
40 - 82a (7th August 1985)
41 - 82 (7th August 1985)
42 - 83 (7th August 1985)
43 - 81 (7th August 1985)
44 - 85 (7th August 1985)
45 - 84 (7th August 1985)
46 - 87 (8th August 1985)
47 - 88 (8th August 1985)
48 - 90 (7th August 1985)
49 - 102 (7th August 1985)
50 - 103 (7th August 1985)

 


 
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Re: False photographic records produced by PC Bird (SOC)...
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2011, 11:30:PM »
Mike, do you have the schedule of photography for WHF?  I've seen it on this forum before.  It is a list of which rooms were photographed at which times.  I asked smiffy about it recently.  We cant find the thread it was on.

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Re: False photographic records produced by PC Bird (SOC)...
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2011, 11:35:PM »
Mike, do you have the schedule of photography for WHF?  I've seen it on this forum before.  It is a list of which rooms were photographed at which times.  I asked smiffy about it recently.  We cant find the thread it was on.
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Re: False photographic records produced by PC Bird (SOC)...
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2011, 11:43:PM »
Mike, do you have the schedule of photography for WHF?  I've seen it on this forum before.  It is a list of which rooms were photographed at which times.  I asked smiffy about it recently.  We cant find the thread it was on.
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Re: False photographic records produced by PC Bird (SOC)...
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2011, 12:49:AM »
False photographic records produced by PC Bird (SOC)

PC David Bird (SOC) claimed there was only 223 photographs in the MASTER COPY ALBUM, but we now know there were at least 358 in another album kept in ACC Peter Simpsons safe at Headquarters - why did PC Bird lie about how many pictures existed in connection with the case?

Mike, where does the above info come from regarding the safe in Simpson's office?  It sounds a bit Shaw-like, unless I'm mistaken and there is another source?
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Re: False photographic records produced by PC Bird (SOC)...
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2011, 08:46:AM »
Pork-Squad on parade
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Re: False photographic records produced by PC Bird (SOC)...
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2011, 08:49:AM »
COLP photographic schedules:-
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Re: False photographic records produced by PC Bird (SOC)...
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2011, 09:08:AM »
There was actually only 49 pictures in the COURT Album, as follows:-

Taken from MASTER COPY ALBUM (223) only 222 actual pictures...

Suddenly, a clearer picture begins to emerge about how the police case was designed to fool the jury into convicting Jeremy Bamber, because they did not include any of the crucial crime scene pictures which showed the disturbance in the kitchen. or the stage managing there (and in the bedroom) by the police...

4a - interior WHF (1)
14 - interior WHF (2)
20 - interior WHF (3)
20a - interior WHF (4)
21 - interior WHF (5)
23 - interior WHF (6)
24 - June Bamber (1)
25 - Sheila Caffell (1)
26 - Sheila Caffell (2)
27 - Sheila Caffell (3)
28 - Sheila Caffell (4)
29 - Sheila Caffell (4)
30 - Sheila Caffell(5)
31 - Sheila Caffell (6)
32 - interior WHF (7)
39 - interior WHF (8)
40 - interior WHF (9)
58 - interior WHF (10)
59 - interior WHF (11)
62 - interior WHF (12)
63 - interior WHF (13)
64 - interior WHF (14)
67 - interior WHF (15)
68 - interior WHF (16)
68a - interior WHF (17)
69 - interior WHF (18)
70 - interior WHF (19)
71 - interior WHF (20)
72 - interior WHF (21)
73 - interior WHF (22)
74 - interior WHF (23)
75 - interior WHF (24)
76 - interior WHF (25)
77 - interior WHF (26)
78 - interior WHF (27)
81 - interior WHF (28)
82 - Left leg and foot, Sheilas Caffell (7)
82a - Left leg and foot, Sheila Caffell (8)
83 - right leg and foot, Sheila Caffell (9)
84 - interior WHF (29)
85 - interior WHF (30)
87 - interior WHF (31)
88 - interior WHF (32)
90 - one of twins (1)
102 - interior WHF (33)
103 - interior WHF (34)
134 - Post mortum, Sheila Caffell (10)
214
220
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Re: False photographic records produced by PC Bird (SOC)...
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2011, 09:41:AM »
Please note, there was no photograph showing Ralph Bambers body toppled over with his head in the coal bucket, or the cushions, towel and cotton trousers on the floor around the bucket which was placed there by the police to control the spread of blood...

Also note:-

That the jury did not see the wooden chair that the police rammed up against the internal door through which the firearms team had originally entered the kitchen scene?

The jury had no opportunity to see that it was the police (not Jeremy) who stage managed the scene in the kitchen...

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Re: False photographic records produced by PC Bird (SOC)...
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2011, 09:44:AM »
Why did COLP refuse/choose not to copy this album of photographs?

Why not copy them?

What do these pictures relate to?

Who took them?

When?

Where?

What relevance if any, do these unoccupied photographs have on Jeremy Bambers innocence?
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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2011, 09:50:AM »
False photographic records produced by PC Bird (SOC)

PC David Bird (SOC) claimed there was only 223 photographs in the MASTER COPY ALBUM, but we now know there were at least 358 in another album kept in ACC Peter Simpsons safe at Headquarters - why did PC Bird lie about how many pictures existed in connection with the case?

Mike, where does the above info come from regarding the safe in Simpson's office?  It sounds a bit Shaw-like, unless I'm mistaken and there is another source?
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Although David Shaw does refer to this feature, there are police records that clearly mention the existence of the SENIOR INVESTIGATING OFFICERS ALBUM...
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Re: False photographic records produced by PC Bird (SOC)...
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2011, 07:39:PM »
Mike, do you have the schedule of photography for WHF?  I've seen it on this forum before.  It is a list of which rooms were photographed at which times.  I asked smiffy about it recently.  We cant find the thread it was on.
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Thanks Mike.

Mike, thanks for posting the COLP schedules. 

However there is a different document which displays the actual times (I think) of the different rooms photographed in WHF.  It's on this forum somewhere.  From what I can recall, it shows that some rooms were photographed twice.  Does this ring a bell?

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Re: False photographic records produced by PC Bird (SOC)...
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2011, 08:25:AM »
Please note, there was no photograph showing Ralph Bambers body toppled over with his head in the coal bucket, or the cushions, towel and cotton trousers on the floor around the bucket which was placed there by the police to control the spread of blood...

Also note:-

That the jury did not see the wooden chair that the police rammed up against the internal door through which the firearms team had originally entered the kitchen scene?

The jury had no opportunity to see that it was the police (not Jeremy) who stage managed the scene in the kitchen...
Why did the police ram a chair up against the door?

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Re: False photographic records produced by PC Bird (SOC)...
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2011, 03:15:PM »
I have read that the police rammed a chair against the internal door when they returned to find that a "dead body" with  rifle had gone walkies! They were confident that there was an armed person in the house.