SNP corruption scandal

[Hardy Boy]

At a pre-trial hearing, Salmond's lawyer Gordon Jackson QC told Lady Dorrian there had been text messages between complainants, government officials and SNP members, which he believed represented "a concerted effort made by people in the government to influence the process, to get it as best they could in terms of criminal prosecution". These text messages were ultimately not introduced as evidence and did not become public knowledge until 2026.[27]

The first witness was "Woman H", who gave an account of how Salmond allegedly tried to rape her in Bute House after a private dinner in June 2014. She had not mentioned this incident when she first talked to police in 2018, and the defence suggested that she fabricated the allegations, which the witness rejected.[31][32] Another witness, Samantha Barber, who was present at the dinner, gave later evidence stating that "Woman H" was not even present at Bute House on the night in question.[33]

Salmond's lawyer, Gordon Jackson, claimed during the trial that "Woman A", a senior Scottish Government official, had been in contact with some of the other complainants before Salmond was charged, telling the jury, "That stinks. It absolutely stinks".[35] Salmond said he wished he had been "more careful" around others' personal space.[36]

[Steve_uk]

Salmond's lawyer, Gordon Jackson, claimed during the trial that "Woman A", a senior Scottish Government official, had been in contact with some of the other complainants before Salmond was charged, telling the jury, "That stinks. It absolutely stinks".[35] Salmond said he wished he had been "more careful" around others' personal space.[36]

In other words, he made unwanted advances, which the women felt were inappropriate, but by dint of the instigator's office they remained silent, until one of them confided in another, and so the genesis of the trial arose.

[Steve_uk]

Adam and David1819 might wake up to a new neighbour tomorrow: https://youtu.be/RZjxz7Igx-s

[Hardy Boy]

In other words, he made unwanted advances, which the women felt were inappropriate, but by dint of the instigator's office they remained silent, until one of them confided in another, and so the genesis of the trial arose.

Your assuming the conclusion Steve, Saying the women spoke to each other doesn’t tell us whether the allegations were true or false. It only tells us they discussed them.  Not everyone interprets the same behaviour in the same way. Some people are naturally hands-on and tactile, others are very sensitive about personal space, as a driving instructor I had a strict no contact code, it was hard to enforce when quick take over of gears or steering were needed, so sometimes contact did happen even though I had that code,  I had to go hands on?

[Steve_uk]

Your assuming the conclusion Steve, Saying the women spoke to each other doesn’t tell us whether the allegations were true or false. It only tells us they discussed them.  Not everyone interprets the same behaviour in the same way. Some people are naturally hands-on and tactile, others are very sensitive about personal space, as a driving instructor I had a strict no contact code, it was hard to enforce when quick take over of gears or steering were needed, so sometimes contact did happen even though I had that code,  I had to go hands on?

But did you lift up your client's skirt..https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-51853134

[Hardy Boy]

Adam and David1819 might wake up to a new neighbour tomorrow: https://youtu.be/RZjxz7Igx-s

Thats right, ditched her husband and ditched Scotland, runaway to the Country she tried her hardest to break from.  After all those years arguing Scotland would be better off apart from England, England suddenly seems a perfectly acceptable refuge.

[Hardy Boy]

But did you lift up your client's skirt..https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-51853134

My point was that human interaction isn’t always as black and white as people pretend

[ngb1066]

Thats right, ditched her husband and ditched Scotland, runaway to the Country she tried her hardest to break from.  After all those years arguing Scotland would be better off apart from England, England suddenly seems a perfectly acceptable refuge.

History is going to judge this dreadful woman very harshly in my view.  She does not realise how she is viewed by most.  Her loyal pack of acolytes is diminishing.

[Hardy Boy]

History is going to judge this dreadful woman very harshly in my view.  She does not realise how she is viewed by most.  Her loyal pack of acolytes is diminishing.

Shes an awful woman NGB, I think her and her husband were up to their neck in it, with finances and with Salmond. At some point people stop believing in coincidences and start questioning judgment, I think there’s more to come yet? 

[Cambridgecutie]

107 pages detailing the booty.  I am only up to page 27.  Such a bizarre mix.  The whole thing seems really bizarre to me. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yenx535keo

[Hardy Boy]

107 pages detailing the booty.  I am only up to page 27.  Such a bizarre mix.  The whole thing seems really bizarre to me. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yenx535keo

I thought that as well, Cutie. The forensic accountants must have had a job with that lot.

The answer Nicola likes to give is, “they were both high earners, so she wouldn’t have noticed anyway”. Correct in one sense, they were both high earners, but Peter’s take-home pay was around the £60,000 mark. The “they were both high earners” defence only works if you’re treating both salaries as one combined pot paying for these goods.

Sturgeon’s position is that they had separate finances, separate bank accounts and that she knew nothing about many of these purchases. If that’s true, then her income isn’t really relevant to explaining the spending.

Like I say, if your money isn’t funding the Jaguar, the motorhome, the watches and the endless stream of purchases, surely the obvious question in any household is: “How are you paying for all this, Peter?”  So she’s using a defence that isn’t actually a defence

[Cambridgecutie]

I thought that as well, Cutie. The forensic accountants must have had a job with that lot.

The answer Nicola likes to give is, “they were both high earners, so she wouldn’t have noticed anyway”. Correct in one sense, they were both high earners, but Peter’s take-home pay was around the £60,000 mark. The “they were both high earners” defence only works if you’re treating both salaries as one combined pot paying for these goods.

Sturgeon’s position is that they had separate finances, separate bank accounts and that she knew nothing about many of these purchases. If that’s true, then her income isn’t really relevant to explaining the spending.

Like I say, if your money isn’t funding the Jaguar, the motorhome, the watches and the endless stream of purchases, surely the obvious question in any household is: “How are you paying for all this, Peter?”  So she’s using a defence that isn’t actually a defence

I haven't seen anything about his net pay only that his gross earning were around 100k and then reduced to 80k.  Any ideas about the gross 20% pay cut?

He may have had capital by way of savings and investments elsewhere? 

NS said he dealt with all the household finances and she passed him a monthly sum each month for her share but didn't give any indication of the amount.   

I saw a beer he bought which I hadn't heard of so I will give that a try.  Its called Jupiler. 

It seems very strange to me that NS appeared to give her all for SI and then she has her nose in the trough allowing donations from many, who will undoubtedly have much lower financial resources than PM and NS, pilfered on items such as cup warmers!?

[Cambridgecutie]

Apparently the motorhome had just 4 miles on the clock. 

[Hardy Boy]

Apparently the motorhome had just 4 miles on the clock.

I bought one from Kings Lynn in 2007 with 4,000 on the clock, I know you say “ Just” and rightly so it’s not a lot of mileage, but for a motorhome, which isn’t an everyday used vehicle used for running errands to the shops, work or appointments, that motorhome bought brand new has covered two complete return  trips of GREAT Britain and more, which is 3,496 miles and add another 504 miles.  Motorhomes don’t usually have high mileage of that size, unless they’ve been travelling abroad.

[Cambridgecutie]

I bought one from Kings Lynn in 2007 with 4,000 on the clock, I know you say “ Just” and rightly so it’s not a lot of mileage, but for a motorhome, which isn’t an everyday used vehicle used for running errands to the shops, work or appointments, that motorhome bought brand new has covered two complete return  trips of GREAT Britain and more, which is 3,496 miles and add another 504 miles.  Motorhomes don’t usually have high mileage of that size, unless they’ve been travelling abroad.

4 miles on the clock, the inclusion of numerous bottles of unopened Molton and Brown toiletries and guides to motorhome tours of parts of UK and Eire that obviously don't have any bearing on SNP business, along with all the other purchases using SNP funds, suggest to me PM had/has emotional and psychological problems and there were problems in the marriage.  It seems to me to go beyond greed and a sense of entitlement.  I don't think NS knew about any of it.

It would be good to see what psychiatrist Raj Persuad makes of it in his 'Shrinking The World' podcast!