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CCRC decision on the 2021 submission
« on: October 04, 2024, 07:32:PM »
In March next year, the CCRC will have a committee meeting to decide whether to refer the case to the Court of Appeal on any of the first three grounds.

If they decide not to, they they will make a provision statement on these three grounds and Bamber's lawyers will have the opportunity to make further representations.

Following this, the CCRC will look at the other grounds.

Assuming there is no Court of Appeal referral, I think we could see a final CCRC decision in next few years which no doubt will be followed by an application for Judicial Review.

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Re: CCRC decision on the 2021 submission
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2024, 09:21:PM »
In March next year, the CCRC will have a committee meeting to decide whether to refer the case to the Court of Appeal on any of the first three grounds.

If they decide not to, they they will make a provision statement on these three grounds and Bamber's lawyers will have the opportunity to make further representations.

Following this, the CCRC will look at the other grounds.

Assuming there is no Court of Appeal referral, I think we could see a final CCRC decision in next few years which no doubt will be followed by an application for Judicial Review.

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Re: CCRC decision on the 2021 submission
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2024, 05:46:PM »
Believe next March will be 4 years.

Suspect 4/5 grounds have been dismissed.

A full dissmissal will be around 2030. Unless Bamber keeps adding grounds to prevent this happening to stop fans getting disillusioned.

If a full dismissal is released, he will seek a Judicial Review.
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Re: CCRC decision on the 2021 submission
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2024, 06:35:PM »
Believe next March will be 4 years.

Suspect 4/5 grounds have been dismissed.

A full dissmissal will be around 2030. Unless Bamber keeps adding grounds to prevent this happening to stop fans getting disillusioned.

If a full dismissal is released, he will seek a Judicial Review.

Quickest turnaround was a 2001 referral from a 1997 application.

2030 could be about right, although I do have a feeling it may be earlier.

He may seek a review. He will probably just carry on. This of course would mean a new submission. Which I struggle to see anything else he could put forward.

He may engage the tariff route again. Which he lost in 2008.

Time is not on Jeremy Bambers side, he is now early sixties and as he ages and any potential health problems occur he will not be able to campaign with such vigour. It's a fact of life.

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Re: CCRC decision on the 2021 submission
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2024, 06:38:PM »
I used to like reading from regular updates from Jeremy on his blog. These days they seem few and far between. I understand he has had some health problems.

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Re: CCRC decision on the 2021 submission
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2024, 06:44:PM »
Believe next March will be 4 years.

Suspect 4/5 grounds have been dismissed.

A full dissmissal will be around 2030. Unless Bamber keeps adding grounds to prevent this happening to stop fans getting disillusioned.

If a full dismissal is released, he will seek a Judicial Review.

I would guess that the final dismissal will be confirmed a bit sooner than 2030, say, 2026 or 2027, in a Final Statement of Reasons and yes, there will be two Judicial Review applications like last time.

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Re: CCRC decision on the 2021 submission
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2024, 06:45:PM »
I used to like reading from regular updates from Jeremy on his blog. These days they seem few and far between. I understand he has had some health problems.
Must admit ILB, i couldn't do the time he's done and the knock backs, it drives me crazy even if it's raining at home and i can't get out on my Bike, i would definetly top myself.  I would just like to get on my Bike and cycle around the world, i think when i was younger and i suggested this, my marriage wouldn't have survived, if i suggest it now, the wife would help me Pack HA HA.


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Re: CCRC decision on the 2021 submission
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2024, 06:46:PM »
Quickest turnaround was a 2001 referral from a 1997 application.

2030 could be about right, although I do have a feeling it may be earlier.

He may seek a review. He will probably just carry on. This of course would mean a new submission. Which I struggle to see anything else he could put forward.

He may engage the tariff route again. Which he lost in 2008.

Time is not on Jeremy Bambers side, he is now early sixties and as he ages and any potential health problems occur he will not be able to campaign with such vigour. It's a fact of life.

I don't see how he could engage the tarriff route again. He has already unsuccessfully challenged this at the Court of Appeal and the European Court of Human Rights.

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Re: CCRC decision on the 2021 submission
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2024, 06:48:PM »
Must admit ILB, i couldn't do the time he's done and the knock backs, it drives me crazy even if it's raining at home and i can't get out on my Bike, i would definetly top myself.  I would just like to get on my Bike and cycle around the world, i think when i was younger and i suggested this, my marriage wouldn't have survived, if i suggest it now, the wife would help me Pack HA HA.

It must be really tough for Bamber, but he should have thought about that before he killed 5 people including 2 children.

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Re: CCRC decision on the 2021 submission
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2024, 07:05:PM »
I don't see how he could engage the tarriff route again. He has already unsuccessfully challenged this at the Court of Appeal and the European Court of Human Rights.

Yes he lost a review in 2008, and what you reference what happened in 2013.

What other options does he have then to have another go?
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Re: CCRC decision on the 2021 submission
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2024, 07:06:PM »
It must be really tough for Bamber, but he should have thought about that before he killed 5 people including 2 children.
Oh i agree, he's got his just desserts as the saying go's,  he must be really strong as ILB said, or Devoid of Emotion.

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Re: CCRC decision on the 2021 submission
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2024, 07:09:PM »
Must admit ILB, i couldn't do the time he's done and the knock backs, it drives me crazy even if it's raining at home and i can't get out on my Bike, i would definetly top myself.  I would just like to get on my Bike and cycle around the world, i think when i was younger and i suggested this, my marriage wouldn't have survived, if i suggest it now, the wife would help me Pack HA HA.

I've been there and done it myself and I could never do time now. The jails are just full of spice and all that other shit. Prison staff shortage. There's like four officers per wing. It's absolute madness.

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Re: CCRC decision on the 2021 submission
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2024, 07:10:PM »
Your long term prisons, your franklands, full Sutton are the best jails to be in as mad as it sounds. Everybody's doing a long time. The CAT B victorian local nicks fuck that shit off. Absolute shitholes.
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Re: CCRC decision on the 2021 submission
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2024, 07:34:PM »
Yes he lost a review in 2008, and what you reference what happened in 2013.

What other options does he have then to have another go?

The only way for him to get out is for him to "find" another 347,000 documents.

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Re: CCRC decision on the 2021 submission
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2024, 07:34:PM »
I've been there and done it myself and I could never do time now. The jails are just full of spice and all that other shit. Prison staff shortage. There's like four officers per wing. It's absolute madness.
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