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Offline Cambridgecutie

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Re: Assisted Dying/Suicide
« Reply #45 on: June 21, 2025, 06:52:PM »

That's true Steve. All they can do is give an approximation. In the meantime, there's a patient who is suffering -and they must be suffering, or expecting such, to consider taking such a step. Personally, I don't want my life being gambled with. Who knows if I might have lived an extra week/month/year? It won't matter after I've left as I won't be around to find out!

I agree Jane.  Who wants to continue a 'life' in unimaginable pain with complete loss of dignity?   :(
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Re: Assisted Dying/Suicide
« Reply #46 on: June 21, 2025, 06:52:PM »
Do you need to?

There's a chance she is a plant and therefore her assisted dying efforts are driven by others with an ulterior motive.

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« Reply #47 on: June 21, 2025, 07:08:PM »
There's a chance she is a plant and therefore her assisted dying efforts are driven by others with an ulterior motive.


Such as, Roch? What would you choose for yourself if you learned you might have only 6 months to live, during which time you'd be in excruciating pain and have to rely on others to care for all your personal needs?

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Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: Assisted Dying/Suicide
« Reply #49 on: June 21, 2025, 08:11:PM »

Such as, Roch? What would you choose for yourself if you learned you might have only 6 months to live, during which time you'd be in excruciating pain and have to rely on others to care for all your personal needs?

Hello Jane. Hope you're enjoying the weather. Yes I am not against the concept of assisted dying. I just don't know whether the agenda was chosen by the MP or given to her.
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Re: Assisted Dying/Suicide
« Reply #50 on: June 21, 2025, 08:46:PM »
Hello Jane. Hope you're enjoying the weather. Yes I am not against the concept of assisted dying. I just don't know whether the agenda was chosen by the MP or given to her.


Hi back, Roch. Think I'm one of the less is more brigade when it comes to heat. I thought she spoke very passionately. I get the impression that she may not be entirely comfortable with the politics of politics. I support this more than the abortion bill. I'm not sure I can talk about that until I get my head round it. All I'll say is that, in my opinion, it's gone several weeks/months too far.

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Re: Assisted Dying/Suicide
« Reply #51 on: June 22, 2025, 09:12:AM »
Pet owners have a legal and ethical responsibility to ensure their pets do not suffer unnecessarily. If a pet is in pain and distress, and a veterinarian determines that euthanasia is the most humane option, the owner is generally expected to consent to the procedure. Failure to do so, when the pet's suffering is deemed unnecessary, can lead to legal consequences under animal welfare laws.
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Re: Assisted Dying/Suicide
« Reply #52 on: June 22, 2025, 09:40:AM »
Pet owners have a legal and ethical responsibility to ensure their pets do not suffer unnecessarily. If a pet is in pain and distress, and a veterinarian determines that euthanasia is the most humane option, the owner is generally expected to consent to the procedure. Failure to do so, when the pet's suffering is deemed unnecessary, can lead to legal consequences under animal welfare laws.
The RSPCA denied claims by one of its former inspectors that it kills more healthy animals than necessary.  Dawn Aubrey-Ward has said large numbers of animals, particularly dogs, were put to sleep after being classed “unsuitable for rehoming”, a definition which could be widely drawn to include older animals, those needing veterinary care, dogs deemed “aggressive” or larger dogs which were “hard to home”.

A lot of animals are put to sleep because of financial reasons, vets charge through the roof now for treatment, insurance premiums are sky high for older dogs, it’s £100 now every time you go to see a vet, so the easy option is to put the animal to sleep.
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Re: Assisted Dying/Suicide
« Reply #53 on: June 23, 2025, 07:22:AM »
 I must say, I thought there was provisions in place for her daughter……… Mental capacity to make an informed decision free from coercion




As the mother of an adult with a learning disability I am petrified by the lack of protection for vulnerable people in the assisted suicide Bill.

You spend much of your life as a parent of a disabled child fighting for the necessary support, for the right school, the therapists, a specialist college. Every time you think you can take a breath and relax, the next milestone and hurdle awaits. You worry endlessly.

The biggest concern for every parent is what will happen when we are dead. Who will look after our 'child', who will understand their needs, care for them in the right way and facilitate their way through life?

But now, to add to that worry, is another enormous and unspeakable question – how can we stop them being killed?



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-14836749/ROSA-MONCKTON-Ill-fight-Lords-against-breathtakingly-cruel-ignorant-assisted-suicide-Bill.html
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