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Offline snow66!

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #240 on: October 10, 2024, 10:21:PM »
Oh, the defence don't wish to know about all that.
I do Steve,Jane doesn't!

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #241 on: October 11, 2024, 12:11:AM »
I think I asked before,which medication of Sheila's was found at WHF after the murders?
Her prescription drugs must have been found somewhere HB, proving whether or not she was taking them!
Was this discussed in court?

The Haloperidol was an slow release injection, she didn't need to take it daily, it was always in her system and she had a moderate dose left when she died. The other meds were to help with the side effects of the haloperidol.

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #242 on: October 11, 2024, 12:19:AM »
The Haloperidol was an slow release injection, she didn't need to take it daily, it was always in her system and she had a moderate dose left when she died. The other meds were to help with the side effects of the haloperidol.
Thanks Zoso,but I have read her list of prescribed medicines and what they were for!
What I was asking was,where were theyfound after her death?

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #243 on: October 11, 2024, 08:06:AM »
I do Steve,Jane doesn't!


I know what the autopsy report says, Snow. That can't be changed however much conspiracy theorists would like it to be.

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #244 on: October 11, 2024, 08:08:AM »
Thanks Zoso,but I have read her list of prescribed medicines and what they were for!
What I was asking was,where were theyfound after her death?
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Remember Snow, Sheila didn't live at WHF, i'm not saying she never took any medicine with her, some People when they go away only take enough of what they need, some have them in small containers and numbered day's to show and remind what they took,  so if this is the case, it was a shit investigation anyway, so who know's Snow?  The Haloperidol was already in the blood stream as you know.

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #245 on: October 11, 2024, 01:05:PM »
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Remember Snow, Sheila didn't live at WHF, i'm not saying she never took any medicine with her, some People when they go away only take enough of what they need, some have them in small containers and numbered day's to show and remind what they took,  so if this is the case, it was a shit investigation anyway, so who know's Snow?  The Haloperidol was already in the blood stream as you know.
Well,all I can say is,unless Sheila flushed all her medication down the toilet and disposed of the containers before her death then someone must have found them either at WHF or in her flat!

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #246 on: October 11, 2024, 01:19:PM »
Well,all I can say is,unless Sheila flushed all her medication down the toilet and disposed of the containers before her death then someone must have found them either at WHF or in her flat!
So what are you saying then Snow, are you saying the Dr was lying about the medication Sheila was on?    Or are you refering to the Poor investigation by the Police? Or are you saying Sheila never bought them with her?  Every single document isn't on here anyway Snow, i'm certainly not going to spend my time trawling through thousands of reports to see if anyone found a tablet, the idiots didn't even remove the guns from the den and was told NOT to do a full HOUSE SEARCH by TAFF, so blame him.

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #247 on: October 11, 2024, 02:46:PM »
Well,all I can say is,unless Sheila flushed all her medication down the toilet and disposed of the containers before her death then someone must have found them either at WHF or in her flat!


So, despite that her autopsy revealed the contrary, you're insisting that she bought medication with her to self medicate? If we leave out the law according to Snow, and look at it logically, why would she, even if we accept your belief, bring 'party' meds with her, decline to take them, and flush them down the loo if she intended murder/suicide? I don't imagine she'd have thought it an imperative that she'd be found to be 'clean' at autopsy.

I can't rule out that she MAY have had some back in her flat -perhaps old stock which JB might have made use of?- but having complained that the high dose of Haloperidol left her unable to function, I find it doubtful that she'd take anything which exacerbated that condition.................and actually, as the autopsy revealed only "trace elements" of recreational drugs, it seems she didn't.
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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #248 on: October 11, 2024, 03:01:PM »
Thanks Zoso,but I have read her list of prescribed medicines and what they were for!
What I was asking was,where were theyfound after her death?

I don't understand what you're asking or why? The Haloperidol was in her body having been previously injected. What significance do her other meds have? Her meds would have been in her handbag along with other things that weren't mentioned. Why would her meds be listed as any kind of evidence, the evidence of her medication is in the toxicology report.

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #249 on: October 11, 2024, 04:35:PM »
I don't understand what you're asking or why? The Haloperidol was in her body having been previously injected. What significance do her other meds have? Her meds would have been in her handbag along with other things that weren't mentioned. Why would her meds be listed as any kind of evidence, the evidence of her medication is in the toxicology report.
I dont suppose I am asking anything much really Zoso.
Just thought the police would have taken her prescribed medicine and counted the pills to check whether she was taking them or not,thats all!
I never mentioned illegal drugs, if this is what Jane means by party drugs!

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #250 on: October 11, 2024, 04:52:PM »
I dont suppose I am asking anything much really Zoso.
Just thought the police would have taken her prescribed medicine and counted the pills to check whether she was taking them or not,thats all!
I never mentioned illegal drugs, if this is what Jane means by party drugs!

It's what I thought you meant, Snow! I can't imagine why you'd think police would be interested in how many prescription drugs she'd taken, besides which, they'd have experienced not a little difficulty in locating her Haloperidol dose! It's doubtful JB could had told them what she was taking, and certain sure Sheila couldn't! Something else! If they were in a blister pack, how would they know when she'd started taking them?

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #251 on: October 11, 2024, 06:48:PM »
It's what I thought you meant, Snow! I can't imagine why you'd think police would be interested in how many prescription drugs she'd taken, besides which, they'd have experienced not a little difficulty in locating her Haloperidol dose! It's doubtful JB could had told them what she was taking, and certain sure Sheila couldn't! Something else! If they were in a blister pack, how would they know when she'd started taking them?
Well as you know Jane,Sheila was on medication for her depression too.
I just thought the police or more so Vanezis would have wanted to know if she was taking her medicine to control this aspect of her illness,so as to give an accurate diagnosis/estimate of Sheila's frame of mind on the evening of the murders.
After all,as pointed out,much was made of her Haldol injection in court!

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #252 on: October 11, 2024, 07:20:PM »
Well as you know Jane,Sheila was on medication for her depression too.
I just thought the police or more so Vanezis would have wanted to know if she was taking her medicine to control this aspect of her illness,so as to give an accurate diagnosis/estimate of Sheila's frame of mind on the evening of the murders.
After all,as pointed out,much was made of her Haldol injection in court!


No, Snow. I don't know! You've quite taken me by surprise with that claim. However, I checked Dr Angeloglou's statement and she says nothing about antidepressants. Only that she was delivering monthly injections of Haloperidol to her. The only other meds mentioned are ointments for minor ailments. Oh! Best not forget what she was taking to counteract any side effects caused by H. Doubt they'd have an antidepressant ingredient!
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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #253 on: October 11, 2024, 07:42:PM »

No, Snow. I don't know! You've quite taken me by surprise with that claim. However, I checked Dr Angeloglou's statement and she says nothing about antidepressants. Only that she was delivering monthly injections of Haloperidol to her. The only other meds mentioned are ointments for minor ailments. Oh! Best not forget what she was taking to counteract any side effects caused by H. Doubt they'd have an antidepressant ingredient!
Sheila's list of medication is on the forum somewhere Jane!
Maybe the autopsy reports, she was definately on anti-depressants!

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #254 on: October 11, 2024, 08:07:PM »
Sheila's list of medication is on the forum somewhere Jane!
Maybe the autopsy reports, she was definately on anti-depressants!


What I've found in the search, I've listed. I've even noted medication for vaginal thrush! But having searched statements from Dr Angeloglou and Peter Vanezis, neither mentions her being prescribed antidepressants. As you clearly know more than I, perhaps you could tell me when they were first prescribed? Having come out of St Andrews and met up with her biological mother, Colin claims she'd never been happier. No depression there, then. Which only leaves a short period of time for her to become depressed enough to request medical help before going to WHF. Dr Angeloglou, as far as I can see, makes no mention of her making such a request or issuing a prescription.