Silencer: If Sheila's blood was planted what about David & Pamela's blood group?

[Cambridgecutie]

Not according to HB, According to DC barlow,  i said he took over from DC Jones, he was asked to look after the case.

Have you got any documentary evidence showing who was responsible for what and when or anything close?  Thank you.

[Curiosity]

They weren't breaking and entering her flat, just snooping through the glass to see if Bamber was in. They then knocked on the door to wake him and his boyfriend up.  Do get your facts right!

[Hardy Boy]

I was born in Cambridge but now live some 30 miles south west.  I visit often.  About twice a month.  We will have to meet up for a beer sometime.  I like brunch at Fitzbillies on a Sunday.

It's either GREGGS and a Porridge or Nothing, i can't afford those prices Cutie.  Save me a table in Greggs, a word of warning though, sit near the door for ventilation or bring the air freshner, after a 80k bike ride who Knows?  Anyway look out for me, iv'e include for the first time a picture of me.

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[Cambridgecutie]

They weren't breaking and entering her flat, just snooping through the glass to see if Bamber was in. They then knocked on the door to wake him and his boyfriend up.  Do get your facts right!

Not sure what has happened to the subject title in your post?!

No that image is from the immediate aftermath.

[Cambridgecutie]

It's either GREGGS and a Porridge or Nothing, i can't afford those prices Cutie.  Save me a table in Greggs, a word of warning though, sit near the door for ventilation or bring the air freshner, after a 80k bike ride who Knows?  Anyway look out for me, iv'e include for the first time a picture of me.

https://bikeportland.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Screen-Shot-2019-07-26-at-7.57.54-AM.jpg

Will do.  I'm a runner but not when I'm in Cambridge. 

[ILB]

There are 9 ranks:

1.Constable
2.Sergeant
3.Inspector
4.Chief Inspector
5.Superintendent
6.Chief Superintendent
7.Assistant Chief Constable
8.Deputy Chief Constable
9.Chief Constable

The lowest marked 1 above is constable.  The highest marked 9 above is chief constable.  DS Jones was a sergeant marked 2 above.  That rank is 1 above the lowest.  Or 7 below the highest.  He was 2/9.  He was nowhere near senior as you claim.  What is difficult to understand about that? 

He had circa 25 years under his belt.  He was either happy with his position or his superiors did not think he was suitable for progression.

He was a member of CID, a detective. CID investigate crimes of a serious nature. He was one rank below a DI, and just two below DCI.

That's not junior by any stretch of the information. If he was PS then yes perhaps.

[Cambridgecutie]

He was a member of CID, a detective. CID investigate crimes of a serious nature. He was one rank below a DI, and just two below DCI.

That's not junior by any stretch of the information. If he was PS then yes perhaps.

We will have to agree to disagree. 

[David1819]

OH yes, her only way out now.................. after parting ways with TAFF on the Friday Evening the 9th of Aug she has put Stan climbing through WHF window or [having a key cut]  locating the silencer, Pricking his OWN finger, scratching the AGA, and then plucking his hair, then hidng the silencer in the hope the relatives find it?

lol

[David1819]

August 7th

DC Clarke tells Ann Eaton that Nevills body was found by the AGA near the mantle shelf.

August 8th:

Ann Eaton takes Julie to the mortuary and notes down Nevills injuries after talking to Julie.

Jeremy provides a witness statement saying he left the rifle in the kitchen without the silencer on.

August 9th:

After visiting the accountant, Jeremy asks Ann Eaton to pay back the loan for the farmland that she is living on. In order to pay death duties.

Ann Eaton visits WHF with DCI and DS Jones. While there she would have seen the blue coat obscuring a certain area of the mantle shelf.

August 10th:

Relatives visit WHF again and collected the silencer and also take back home Sheila's blood stained clothing. David Boutflour does not recall seeing any blood, paint or hair on the silencer while at WHF at this stage.

Ann Eaton contacts Whitam police station about the silencer later that evening. It stays in Ann bedroom cupboard for the next two days.

August 13th:

Stan Jones collects the silencer and gives it to DI Cook.

August 14th:

Ann Eaton alerts DI Cook to the scratch marks under the mantle shelf.


The above events are all factual. Not speculative.

Factoring in the conflicting statements, testimony and lies she told.  It can be inferred that it was Ann Eaton who fabricated the silencer.

[ILB]

We will have to agree to disagree.

Fine.

[ILB]

" the answer is in the documents "

Jeremy Bamber 2010.

[Hardy Boy]

August 7th

DC Clarke tells Ann Eaton that Nevills body was found by the AGA near the mantle shelf.

August 8th:

Ann Eaton takes Julie to the mortuary and notes down Nevills injuries after talking to Julie.

Jeremy provides a witness statement saying he left the rifle in the kitchen without the silencer on.

August 9th:

After visiting the accountant, Jeremy asks Ann Eaton to pay back the loan for the farmland that she is living on. In order to pay death duties.

Ann Eaton visits WHF with DCI and DS Jones. While there she would have seen the blue coat obscuring a certain area of the mantle shelf.

August 10th:

Relatives visit WHF again and collected the silencer and also take back home Sheila's blood stained clothing. David Boutflour does not recall seeing any blood, paint or hair on the silencer while at WHF at this stage.

Ann Eaton contacts Whitam police station about the silencer later that evening. It stays in Ann bedroom cupboard for the next two days.

August 13th:

Stan Jones collects the silencer and gives it to DI Cook.

August 14th:

Ann Eaton alerts DI Cook to the scratch marks under the mantle shelf.


The above events are all factual. Not speculative.

Factoring in the conflicting statements, testimony and lies she told.  It can be inferred that it was Ann Eaton who fabricated the silencer.

 I don't know about the blood so i can't agree there,[i think this will always be disputed]  it was PE who put the silencer in the Wardrobe,

youv'e got Stan collecting the silencer on the 13th of Aug when in fact he collected it on the 12th of August, he did hand it over to Cooke on the 13th though.

I'm not sure when Anne rang the police on Saturday evening, would be nice if you have a time for this, only all i have is they rang the Police Immediate when they got back to Anne's house.

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[Zoso]

Well as ILB said he clearly wasn't FLO material with his comment to JB telling him to accept the fact his family are dead only minutes after being told.  And as ILB said today, he would be put on sandwich duty and the comment would trigger an internal inquiry.

Regardless, that's pretty much what his role was and given that Bamber was eventually snared and convicted - the only internal inquiry, was how the case was messed up from day one and Bamber almost got away with it.

[Zoso]

He was a senior officer. A member of rank of CID. One below a DI.

Quite why she puts him as a junior I have no idea.

To bolster her point. It's OK - I know it's rubbish, you know it's rubbish. She does the same with Fletcher. I guess when she said the 'A Team', she really meant the 'A Team' - Murdoch perhaps? 

[Hardy Boy]

Or using some kind of skeleton key.  He was an experienced police officer with much of his service pre PACE.  He would be use to finding ways to enter apparently locked buildings.  See the image of the police entering SC's via a window.

He knew where the silencer was located from AP.

Yes he used his own blood knowing that tiny bloodstains at that time were incapable of grouping. 

Yes he scratched the AGA having already had a look at SOC images.

No he didn't pluck a hair from his own head.  That's silly.  He was mainly dark and NB was grey.  It would be easy to locate NB's hair on combs, brushes, outerwear, hats.  It would be all over the place.  I assume the inference with the hair was that the silencer was on when NB sustained a beating with an object thought to be the rifle. 

He didn't need to hide the silencer.  It was simply popped back in its rightful place.  And if they hadn't found it when they did he could simply have slipped it into a conversation later eg 'Oh btw did you find the silencer'?

And before he left he helped himself to the contents of NB's wallet.

I have to Admit Cutie, you might have a time slot that i have found, i can't quite read all of it, mabe someone else can, but it seems Stan didn't finish work till Friday evening at 11.15pm, i can't quite make this out or he was just hading them or collecting them?  Doesn't mean he was upto something, i don't know if Taff was with him also, but................This was on the 9th of Aug

I think after enlarging it, he's gone to hand the keys over to Anne at Oak Farm, and finished at 11.15pm?  He's said all Police examination completed

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