Silencer: If Sheila's blood was planted what about David & Pamela's blood group?

[Steve_uk]

And how does the above relate to Snow's post?

I would hope you do work full-time given your age.  I worked full-time when I was your age plus around two decades after that!

And if I've spent 3 years trolling this forum with over 4000+ posts, as you claim, it says more about the moderation than my posts.

I am to the case what Messi is to football .  A fact you are hopefully ill at ease with.  I run past you and score blinders

As far as I'm aware Lionel Messi didn't change his name three times. Don't get me wrong: you do write some incisive posts, but a little humility wouldn't go amiss.

[snow66!]

I work full time and spend a large portion of that time in New York and Connecticut. This year alone I helped install new network infrastructure in some of the best country clubs on the US east coast.

Whereas CC I suspect hasn't worked in decades and spent the last three years trolling this forum with over 4000+ posts.  People in glass houses would be a huge understatement. 

Wow,that sounds like a fulfilling and well paid job Dave!
I've heard Roch speak of a connection with the USA before.
Well done!

[Adam]

Can you list your reasons why you think the AM is incriminating? I have forgotten what you said to be honest.

Although please do not say " nevill wouldn't ring Bambers AM" I do remember you saying that.

Bamber would have it on 24/7.

Nevill would not ring an AM after being shot 4 times.

Nevill would not ring an AM if fully fit.

If Nevill rang an AM, he would leave a message.

Bamber would not wake from 3-7 rings before an AM comes on.

Bamber would not get to the phone before Nevill hangs up.

Nevill would not repeatedly ring an AM.

Bamber could phone his AM from WHF as proof of a call. 

[ILB]

Bamber would have it on 24/7.

Nevill would not ring an AM after being shot 4 times.

Nevill would not ring an AM if fully fit.

If Nevill rang an AM, he would leave a message.

Bamber would not wake from 3-7 rings before an AM comes on.

Bamber would not get to the phone before Nevill hangs up.

Nevill would not repeatedly ring an AM.

Bamber could phone his AM from WHF as proof of a call.

Thank you for that.

Will respond to replies 2,3,4 by responding that Nevill would not call an for an AM, he would call for a person. Like anybody else does who makes a phonecall. Myself and you included.

And 7.

[ILB]

Are you saying that nobody with an AM has ever awoken to a phonecall in the middle of the night on planet earth?

[Cambridgecutie]

There's no comparison whatsoever with the text highlighted in bold.

I rather think there is!

The case of Stefan Kiszko involved 4 lay prosecution witnesses who, post acquittal, admitted lying for a laugh at trial.  Their testimony helped secure the conviction.  Police superintendent Richard Holland and forensic scientist Ronald Outteridge were charged with perverting the course of justice.

In Bamber's case it involves JM, DS Jones and the lab headed up by none other than the same forensic scientist Ronald Outteridge.

There is no need for an implausible 'industrial frame' which Adam regularly refers to.  Ironically the CT also refers to an 'industrial frame':https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/liars-lobby 

[Adam]

Are you saying that nobody with an AM has ever awoken to a phonecall in the middle of the night on planet earth?

Doubtful anyone would wake. Unless the phone was next to them.

[Roch]

You are clueless.  You have been around the case far longer than I have and you are either unable or unwilling to work it out.  Its not rocket science.

OK clever clogs, can you show me a lab sketch where SC's blood groupings are actually pointed out on the SM?

[ILB]

Doubtful anyone would wake. Unless the phone was next to them.

Are you 100 percent sure?

Have you conducted a survey?

[ILB]

I rather think there is!

The case of Stefan Kiszko involved 4 lay prosecution witnesses who, post acquittal, admitted lying for a laugh at trial.  Their testimony helped secure the conviction.  Police superintendent Richard Holland and forensic scientist Ronald Outteridge were charged with perverting the course of justice.

In Bamber's case it involves JM, DS Jones and the lab headed up by none other than the same forensic scientist Ronald Outteridge.

There is no need for an implausible 'industrial frame' which Adam regularly refers to.  Ironically the CT also refers to an 'industrial frame':https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/liars-lobby

Kiszko confessed as well.

[ILB]

Contrary to popular belief kiszko was vulnerable but not " stupid or backward" he had a normal schooling, was a tax clerk, and could drive. He was of normal intelligence. He was just socially awkward and vulnerable and was a giant man child. Easy victim for police at that era.

He had no social life beyond his mother. They lived for one another. It's a sad tragic case.

Hope that evil bastard Castree rots eventually. I read his sons book.

[Adam]

Are you 100 percent sure?

Have you conducted a survey?

Doubtful does not mean 100%.

Doubtful anyone would wake from a downstairs phone ringing 3-7 times.

Certainly no chance of answering it in time. 

More chance if the phone is next to you.

[Cambridgecutie]

Kiszko confessed as well.

It seems Holland wrote the statement where he 'confessed' and he signed it.  He was socially inept, totally naive and ill equipped to deal with an officer like Holland.  He redacted the statement but sadly the harm was done. 

https://www.watersidepress.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Richard-Holland_statement.pdf

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Delusions-Innocence-Tragic-Stefan-Kiszko/dp/1909976466?asin=1909976466&revisionId=&format=4&depth=1

[ILB]

Doubtful does not mean 100%.

Doubtful anyone would wake from a downstairs phone ringing 3-7 times.

Certainly no chance of answering it in time. 

More chance if the phone is next to you.

I know.

Do you accept that he may have answered it ?

Do you accept we would have to conduct a survey ?

[ILB]

It seems Holland wrote the statement where he 'confessed' and he signed it.  He was socially inept, totally naive and ill equipped to deal with an officer like Holland.  He redacted the statement but sadly the harm was done. 

https://www.watersidepress.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Richard-Holland_statement.pdf

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Delusions-Innocence-Tragic-Stefan-Kiszko/dp/1909976466?asin=1909976466&revisionId=&format=4&depth=1

It is said that they told kiszko " get this signed and we can get it all wrapped up for Christmas "

The reality is there was sleep deprivation, gentle threats, and persuasion of a stronger kind.

 This is 1970s policing in Britain. In the early 80s as a teenager I witnessed similar myself.