Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?

[Adam]

No, they have to liaise with hotel management and may need to speak to police. They should have a rudimentary knowledge of the host country.

There is no way the teenage holiday reps I saw in that doc could speak different laungages.

Maybe 'good morning' and 'thank you'.

The hotel management will speak English as all there residents are English.

[ILB]

No, they have to liaise with hotel management and may need to speak to police. They should have a rudimentary knowledge of the host country.

Jesus, poor Bamber would have only wanted a good drink, a one bedroom flat and loose women.

[ILB]

Maybe Nevill would have relented in time.

Bamber could play heavily on the mental health card.

Shelia having such problems as well.

[Steve_uk]

Jesus, poor Bamber would have only wanted a good drink, a one bedroom flat and loose women.

Had he not been adopted by the Bambers, you mean.

[ILB]

Had he not been adopted by the Bambers, you mean.

Must have hated them with a core to throw away future permanent employment and wealth.

[ILB]

Bamber if gulity didn't go into this thinking " I'm definatley going to get away with it" he took a calculated risk,

He lost, and has paid the price heavily.

He is a resilient character with a strong personality and a ready line in conversation, he's managed to go through jail with his facilities in tact. Fighting the case has kept his sanity. Even if gulity and living in fantasy. It's something he can occupy himself with and keep busy.

He's a survivor, and what I mean by that he's felt in his own mind hes never belonged. He was adopted from birth, never had a meaningful close relationship with his adopted family, was shunted to boarding school at a young age.

Had circumstances been different, perhaps he'd be successful person.

[Jane]

Must have hated them with a core to throw away future permanent employment and wealth.

The saying goes thus: The grass is always greener on the other side.

[ILB]

The saying goes thus: The grass is always greener on the other side.

Almost forty years at a category A prisoner. I think I'd rather go to bible classes with June and drink tea and eat crumpets

[Jane]

Almost forty years at a category A prisoner. I think I'd rather go to bible classes with June and drink tea and eat crumpets

Many find out the hard way that it was all an illusion.

[Adam]

I just give the facts on Julie -

Pre massacre:

Did not speak to anyone else.

Post massacre:

Gave a 2 page WS on 8th August 1985. 

Left Bamber 27th August 1985 to return to London and work.

Told 5 people between late August and early September.

Bamber asks another woman out in front of her. On 4th September 1985.

Last meeting  with Bamber & Brett. In London. On 6th September 1985.

September 7th 1985. Approached the police.

New signed 23 page WS submitted 8th September 1985. From which she would testify from.

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Some people say this is understandable, others say it is not acceptable. Others say she should have been put in prison.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. What is true is that no one was in her position at 20/21 years old. Everyone would have reacted in a different way.

[Hardy Boy]

I just give the facts on Julie -

Pre massacre:

Did not speak to anyone else.

Post massacre:

Gave a 2 page WS on 8th August 1985. 

Left Bamber 27th August 1985 to return to London and work.

Told 5 people between late August and early September.

Bamber asks another woman out in front of her. On 4th September 1985.

Last meeting  with Bamber & Brett. In London. On 6th September 1985.

September 7th 1985. Approached the police.

New signed 23 page WS submitted 8th September 1985. From which she would testify from.

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Some people say this is understandable, others say it is not acceptable. Others say she should have been put in prison.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. What is true is that no one was in her position at 20/21 years old. Everyone would have reacted in a different way.

What, it's understandable to cover up for your Boyfriend putting 5 and 3 bullets into the head of two little boy's and 8 into his Father 7 and 2 in to his mother and sister, who are the  UNDERSTANDABLE one's, or do you mean it's understandable because she's part of it and tried to cover herself?

[Adam]

What, it's understandable to cover up for your Boyfriend putting 5 and 3 bullets into the head of two little boy's and 8 into his Father 7 and 2 in to his mother and sister, who are the  UNDERSTANDABLE one's, or do you mean it's understandable because she's part of it and tried to cover herself?

Do you agree with ILB that Julie should have told the police everything on the 7th August?

[Jane]

What, it's understandable to cover up for your Boyfriend putting 5 and 3 bullets into the head of two little boy's and 8 into his Father 7 and 2 in to his mother and sister, who are the  UNDERSTANDABLE one's, or do you mean it's understandable because she's part of it and tried to cover herself?

Aww! I guess, as one of their number, I have to explain what "UNDERSTANDABLE" means to me, HB! I understand all the reasons -when added up, there aren't that many- behind most crimes -I'm leaving out pedophilia/sexual crimes- but understanding isn't condoning. Before every crime is committed, there is choice, but when rage, jealousy, and greed are present, self control isn't. I feel certain we can ALL understand what rage, jealousy, and greed feel like? Thankfully, most of us have enough self control that we don't act on them in a way which harms others.

[Adam]

I just give the facts on Julie -

Pre massacre:

Did not speak to anyone else.

Post massacre:

Gave a 2 page WS on 8th August 1985. 

Left Bamber 27th August 1985 to return to London and work.

Told 5 people between late August and early September.

Bamber asks another woman out in front of her. On 4th September 1985.

Last meeting  with Bamber & Brett. In London. On 6th September 1985.

September 7th 1985. Approached the police.

New signed 23 page WS submitted 8th September 1985. From which she would testify from.

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Some people say this is understandable, others say it is not acceptable. Others say she should have been put in prison.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. What is true is that no one was in her position at 20/21 years old. Everyone would have reacted in a different way.

Interesting points in this -

Between the 7th August 1985 - 7th September 1985 I don't believe the police spoke to or approached Julie. 

After Bamber asked another woman out in front of her, Julie did not approach the police for another 3 days. She also met Bamber 2 days later. So her approach was not rage motivated.

The 6th September 1985 meeting with Bamber he told her he was water tight.

Her submitted WS was only a day after she approached the police. Supporters claim she needed several drafts.This may be true but it was still finished within hours.

[Hardy Boy]

Do you agree with ILB that Julie should have told the police everything on the 7th August?

Put it this way,  i don't think anyone would stop with their Boyfriend who is commited to murdering his family.  Julie was in on it for the spoils and nothing else and should have been put in jail because she knew what happened and covered up for him, until he ditched her.