Julie Charged As An Accomplice To Murder?

[ILB]

Her simple explanation pre massacre is that she did not believe he would do it.

After the massacre if the police had approached her & she spent days being interviewed and denied everything, she would have been prosecuted.

She at that stage was just Bambers partner.

She wasn't that important at that stage apart from Bamber phoning her to tell that " something was wrong" remember it was deemed murder suicide, tying up loose ends, crossing ts spitting i's

It was Bambers family that had been murdered. She was just his girlfriend who he needed by his side. On the face of it quite a normal reaction.

[ILB]

" everything is going well, something is wrong at the farm " is weird terminology to use.

I would expect something along the lines of

" Job complete, I've done what I've needed to do "

Or

" Yes he's done it, Ive spoken to him "

[Adam]

To be fair the police did class it as murder/suicide.

If they had believed Bamber guilty straight away & started interviewing Julie, she would have started talking quickly.

In the end it was her that approached them.

[ILB]

To be fair the police did class it as murder/suicide.

If they had believed Bamber guilty straight away & started interviewing Julie, she would have started talking quickly.

In the end it was her that approached them.

For Bamber to call her on the night in question and to get to go to WHF he must have been extremely confident she would not say anything.

Soon as the police were on the scene, they dictate the agenda.  It's my view Bamber was confident she'd not say a word

[Adam]

For Bamber to call her on the night in question and to get to go to WHF he must have been extremely confident she would not say anything.

Soon as the police were on the scene, they dictate the agenda.  It's my view Bamber was confident she'd not say a word

He had the opportunity after the massacre to simultaneously scare her and spend money on her.

But it wasn't enough and she returned to London on the 27th August.

He probably felt she wouldn't go to the police but if she did it wouldn't be enough.

[Steve_uk]

They were in it together. Her WS says so.

But she didn't pull the trigger and approached the police before they approached her.

The choice of words is misleading, Adam.

[Steve_uk]

I agree, Bamber had invested a lot of confidence in Julie,  she was always on board with what he said, but he tired of her as the relationship progressed, he could not rid of her before the murders because Julie would have transpired to friends ,  nothing to stop her going to Police if he carried it out, she's not with him and not implicated at this stage. 

Bamber would naturally think it better once he had done the murders and the heat was off him,  who would believe Julie now,  Bodies gone, evidence destroyed, Taff on Board,  Julie still keeping Schtum but implicated, plan A executed [murders], now for pan B [Julie]

But he telephoned her immediately after the murders. He must have been confident both of her silence and police would find no evidence against him.

[ILB]

He had the opportunity after the massacre to simultaneously scare her and spend money on her.

But it wasn't enough and she returned to London on the 27th August.

He probably felt she wouldn't go to the police but if she did it wouldn't be enough.

In fairness she did accompany on trips and he paid for her. But the trips were probably just due to the fact she was his girlfriend. He and Brett began a heavy bromance post massacre and Julie almost seems a tag along.

Whether it was more than friendship between the two men. They both deny being lovers.

I don't think he was spoiling her per say.

[Steve_uk]

Julie for Jeremy, should be his number one priority, her testimony is one of two key reasons he has spent 39 years rotting in jail.

Impossible without implicating himself.

[ILB]

Impossible without implicating himself.

Well if he wants out of jail, in my opinion that's the only way along with the silencer he will do it.

If you have read my posts, I did give a reason why he would not implicate Julie out of spite. To gain freedom it would be a fruitless excersise.

[Steve_uk]

" everything is going well, something is wrong at the farm " is weird terminology to use.

I would expect something along the lines of

" Job complete, I've done what I've needed to do "

Or

" Yes he's done it, Ive spoken to him "

It was a shared telephone line, so he used a coded message.

[ILB]

It was a shared telephone line, so he used a coded message.

Which means they must have been in league with another.

Otherwise she would have just said " what the fuck are you talking about "

Bare in mind, he called her at 3am approx.

[Steve_uk]

Well if he wants out of jail, in my opinion that's the only way along with the silencer he will do it.

If you have read my posts, I did give a reason why he would not implicate Julie out of spite. To gain freedom it would be a fruitless excersise.

Wouldn't admitting to be a child killer sign his own death warrant before he could open the prison exit gates?

[ILB]

Interestingly according to Julie's WS that the weekend prior to the massacre she says Bamber didn't mention killing anybody.

There's a part of me that thinks he would blab or brag to Julie that weekend. It was a golden opportunity. The boys, Shelia and Nevill and June all under one roof.

Which is why I have always believed he made a snap decision that Tuesday afternoon whilst on the tractor.

[Steve_uk]

Which means they must have been in league with another.

Otherwise she would have just said " what the fuck are you talking about "

Bare in mind, he called her at 3am approx.

Well, she did say in her statement when she went back to bed that she realized Jeremy had killed his family, or words to that effect. She did question him that evening and was possibly taken in by the Matthew McDonald story.