The New Yorker article

[Roch]

I'm still of the opinion that Jeremy, Brett and Fielder were all shits. I don't believe there is a definitive version of this event that puts any one of the three in the clear. And before anyone starts, I have never had a firm opinion either way on the veracity of the claims made for or against JB/Fielder.

[Zoso]

I'm still of the opinion that Jeremy, Brett and Fielder were all shits. I don't believe there is a definitive version of this event that puts any one of the three in the clear. And before anyone starts, I have never had a firm opinion either way on the veracity of the claims made for or against JB/Fielder.

The biggest shit is the one who tried to sell pictures of his recently dead sister. The others had no emotional connection. He did that and has been avoiding and squirming around the issue for years. However, I'm glad he finally admitted it!!

[ILB]

I'm still of the opinion that Jeremy, Brett and Fielder were all shits. I don't believe there is a definitive version of this event that puts any one of the three in the clear. And before anyone starts, I have never had a firm opinion either way on the veracity of the claims made for or against JB/Fielder.

As said Brett probably did spearhead it.

But it had to be vetoed by Jeremy, Brett would have to have Jeremy's approval.

Jeremy is saying  his head was all over the place.

Brett was just a chancer in my opinion

[ILB]

The biggest shit is the one who tried to sell pictures of his recently dead sister. The others had no emotional connection. He did that and has been avoiding and squirming around the issue for years. However, I'm glad he finally admitted it!!

I think from the gulity perspective the most disgusting thing is he was snickering in front of  Colin Caffell about it at Shelias flat.

With the knowledge of that he had murdered this man's children, and this man was supporting him.

I have read Colin's book.

[Zoso]

I think from the gulity perspective the most disgusting thing is he was snickering in front of  Colin Caffell about it at Shelias flat.

With the knowledge of that he had murdered this man's children, and this man was supporting him.

I have read Colin's book.

Exactly!

[Curiosity]

David James Smith on the New Yorker article -

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/jeremy-bamber-white-house-murders-innocent-b2588804.html

DJS interview with Bamber in Full Sutton 2010 -

[ngb1066]

Daily Telegraph article yesterday.  The New Yorker article has certainly increased interest and stimulated debate about the issues.

[Roch]

Daily Telegraph article yesterday.  The New Yorker article has certainly increased interest and stimulated debate about the issues.

Are there some pages missing ngb?

How do we find out the date of the EP statement referred to in these recent articles?

[ngb1066]

Are there some pages missing ngb?

How do we find out the date of the EP statement referred to in these recent articles?

The article was sent to me by another member.  I think it is complete but the pdf does contain empty pages.  I am not sure about the date of the EP statement.

[Roch]

The article was sent to me by another member.  I think it is complete but the pdf does contain empty pages.  I am not sure about the date of the EP statement.

I think there are pages missing within the article rather than at the end. I will try and find out elsewhere regarding the statement. I have assumed he was referring to 2002.

[Bill Robertson]

18 July 2002, article on the ETI website

[Zoso]

I'll say it again, he can't have received a call 'from' WHF and known it was WHF if the person didn't speak. It's all well and good getting excited about it, but it will lead to nothing because the call can't have happened the way he's claiming. The only part that has any legs is Roch's favourite bit about the statement being written for him. However, given that his claim can't have happened, the statement is pretty meaningless.

[Roch]

I'll say it again, he can't have received a call 'from' WHF and known it was WHF if the person didn't speak. It's all well and good getting excited about it, but it will lead to nothing because the call can't have happened the way he's claiming. The only part that has any legs is Roch's favourite bit about the statement being written for him. However, given that his claim can't have happened, the statement is pretty meaningless.

I wouldn't say it is my favourite bit.  However, if an interview or statement was somehow forged, that would be the beginning of the end.  I think the vultures would circle.

I have always had reservations about the alleged 999 call.  For it to progress for the defence, there would need to be a way of undermining any evidence being used to show it was not a 999 call from the farmhouse.   

[Roch]

18 July 2002, article on the ETI website

Thanks Bill, been meaning to contact you.  Hope you are well mate.

[Bill Robertson]

Very well thanks. The question to ask is not whether Sheila called the police on a 999 call, but which emergency service did she ask for when the operator responded? She was surrounded by police, so she didn't really need to call them. But if she had a sudden concern for her family, might she have dialled 999 asking for an ambulance?

And how did things then progress from then........

It is all falling into place.