The New Yorker article

[snow66!]

Roch, have you suddenly become unduly influenced by the late Russell Harty?

Ah,got you Steve,very witty!

[Steve_uk]

Ah,got you Steve,very witty!

This I watched live, forever etched on my memory: https://youtu.be/XLLtS50UCBQ

[Bubo bubo]

Some interesting info here about call tracing - this was in the US though and was still slow to achieve, like ILB said, it was even slower to catch on here!https://www.quora.com/How-were-phone-calls-traced-during-the-60s-and-70s

But you did not include the 80's

In 1985, telephone calls could indeed be traced by operators. When someone made a call, the operator had the ability to track the call’s origin and destination.

[Zoso]

But you did not include the 80's

In 1985, telephone calls could indeed be traced by operators. When someone made a call, the operator had the ability to track the call’s origin and destination.

Then you'll be able to explain just how that worked?

[Bubo bubo]

But you did not include the 80's

In 1985, telephone calls could indeed be traced by operators. When someone made a call, the operator had the ability to track the call’s origin and destination.

Without passing judgement on the article as a whole. I did find a couple of points which I found of particular interest.

This is the first time I have read about someone who was involved with the 999 call.

This statement together with logs for me proves there was a call irrespective of what may have been said, heard or indeed who made it.

It does not matter who ordered the ambulances.

There was someone alive in WHF.

[Bubo bubo]

Then you'll be able to explain just how that worked?

I do not need to completely understand the technical aspects I trust my source,

n 1985, telephone calls could indeed be traced by operators. When someone made a call, the operator had the ability to track the call’s origin and destination. However, it’s essential to note that this process was typically used for legitimate purposes, such as emergency services or law enforcement. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask! 😊

[Zoso]

I do not need to completely understand the technical aspects I trust my source,

Well I don't and as you're making the claim, it's up to you to back it up! I say they could NOT trace the call from the equipment in the control room!

[Steve_uk]

Without passing judgement on the article as a whole. I did find a couple of points which I found of particular interest.

This is the first time I have read about someone who was involved with the 999 call.

This statement together with logs for me proves there was a call irrespective of what may have been said, heard or indeed who made it.

It does not matter who ordered the ambulances.

There was someone alive in WHF.

Why has it taken Americans or some other person or persons unknown 39 years to discover this, when umpteen lawyers employed (and sacked) by Jeremy as well as other legal counsel working pro bono for him failed to do so?

[Bubo bubo]

Well I don't and as you're making the claim, it's up to you to back it up! I say they could NOT trace the call from the equipment in the control room!

They would ask the operator. If a 999 call is made and no questions are forthcoming from the caller the police are usually informed so they can attend the source. Given what was claimed to be heard in this case the police would be informed The emergency services, particularly fire and rescue get a lot of hoax calls in the summer and during school holidays.

[Zoso]

They would ask the operator. If a 999 call is made and no questions are forthcoming from the caller the police are usually informed so they can attend the source. Given what was claimed to be heard in this case the police would be informed The emergency services, particularly fire and rescue get a lot of hoax calls in the summer and during school holidays.

I know how to make a 999 call! I'll ask again, how did the dispatcher know where the call was coming from in 1985 and if they got as far as the dispatcher, they had to have spoken to the operator - so where's the operator who passed the call to Milbank?

[Jane]

They would ask the operator. If a 999 call is made and no questions are forthcoming from the caller the police are usually informed so they can attend the source. Given what was claimed to be heard in this case the police would be informed The emergency services, particularly fire and rescue get a lot of hoax calls in the summer and during school holidays.

The last time I made a 999 call, I was asked my name, address, and verification of the phone number. How else would they have known where I was calling from?

[Bubo bubo]

Why has it taken Americans or some other person or persons unknown 39 years to discover this, when umpteen lawyers employed (and sacked) by Jeremy as well as other legal counsel working pro bono for him failed to do so?

I think this was because there were no statements on this site (I do no know of other sources) . Mainly it has been argued in the past that they arranged the contact with the operator asking to use the 999 call line to tap into the opened line at WHF.

This appears to reference a bono fide 999 call.

[Bubo bubo]

I know how to make a 999 call! I'll ask again, how did the dispatcher know where the call was coming from in 1985 and if they got as far as the dispatcher, they had to have spoken to the operator - so where's the operator who passed the call to Milbank?

It depends on the local GPO (1985) hub and could have been anyone who was on shift that night. Operators were not supposed to listen in but it is admitted  that they sometimes eves dropped. the early part of the exchange.

[Zoso]

It depends on the local GPO (1985) hub and could have been anyone who was on shift that night. Operators were not supposed to listen in but it is admitted  that they sometimes eves dropped. the early part of the exchange.

The operator was Jean Rowe and she didn't take ANY 999 call, she simply patched an officer into the open line to WHF and it was open because it was off the hook. She patched them in twice. Roch posted part of her statement. What reason would she have to lie?

[Bubo bubo]

It depends on the local GPO (1985) hub and could have been anyone who was on shift that night. Operators were not supposed to listen in but it is admitted  that they sometimes eves dropped. the early part of the exchange.

In this case the operator would ask which service was required and the caller's details. If they just said police without giving further details the operator would contact the service requested and explain the situation.