'The New Yorker' dishing the dirt.

[Curiosity]

Yankees poking their noses in where it isn't needed, with the same old regurgitated cr@p about blood spots on Sheila's feet, call log interpretation, and the bible allegedly found open at psalms 51-55 near the middle of the book (when in fact it was open near the end, nowhere near those psalms - as shown in the cs photo).

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13679477/magazine-probe-Lucy-Letby-conviction-claims-police-tampered-evidence-Jeremy-Bamber.html

[Jane]

Allegedly, they've been in contact with some of those who were contacted to the case. I guess they must have held a seance.

[Curiosity]

Allegedly, they've been in contact with some of those who were contacted to the case. I guess they must have held a seance.

Taff Jones, namesake Stan, Bob Miller, Mike Ainsley, Anthony Arlidge KC, Judge Maurice Drake, and other deceased protagonists making their Ouija board tremble.

[Jane]

Taff Jones, namesake Stan, Bob Miller, Mike Ainsley, Anthony Arlidge KC, Judge Maurice Drake, and other deceased protagonists making their Ouija board tremble.

And two more, personal friends, who have joined the Heavenly Force. Not named out of deference to living relatives.

[ngb1066]

Yankees poking their noses in where it isn't needed, with the same old regurgitated cr@p about blood spots on Sheila's feet, call log interpretation, and the bible allegedly found open at psalms 51-55 near the middle of the book (when in fact it was open near the end, nowhere near those psalms - as shown in the cs photo).

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13679477/magazine-probe-Lucy-Letby-conviction-claims-police-tampered-evidence-Jeremy-Bamber.html

I think this is likely to be a very well researched article.  It is I understand very lengthy and goes into the subject in detail.  I suspect it will generate renewed interest in the case.

[Roch]

Well they poked their noses in with a million or so podcasts based on Cal's research. So let's see what this other journalist has researched.

[Roch]

Taff Jones, namesake Stan, Bob Miller, Mike Ainsley, Anthony Arlidge KC, Judge Maurice Drake, and other deceased protagonists making their Ouija board tremble.

Probably more likely to be TFG and / or others who were on the scene early stages.  Obviously, if still alive, nobody heavily involved in the 2nd investigation would cooperate with this type of investigative journalist who will have had sight of the submissions. That's too difficult an interview and would be shunned.

Remember, we only know that the jury were going to set JB free due to a moment of carelessness from an original officer in the case, because they were comfortable in speaking to CAL.

[Bubo bubo]

I think this is likely to be a very well researched article.  It is I understand very lengthy and goes into the subject in detail.  I suspect it will generate renewed interest in the case.

I agree. 17000 words is akin to the word requirement for a 'Masters' dissertation. It is going to be a long read. The extent to which it permeates the UK discourse is going to depend largely but not exclusively on two factors. The depth of coverage in the various UK media outlets. The extent to which people engage with the story.

There are many issues at this time which people engage with. When your prime objective is to put food on the table, a story from 1985 might not be your priority. The amount of 'Cut through' is unlikely to emulate 'Spycatcher'. We will have to wait and see.

[Roch]

Behind a paywall

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/07/28/jeremy-bamber-detectives-may-have-lied-about-evidence/

[Curiosity]

Behind a paywall

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/07/28/jeremy-bamber-detectives-may-have-lied-about-evidence/

Nicked almost word for word from the MailOnline.  What does Bamber mean by restaging the crime scene?  Interfering with/moving Sheila's body?, or shifting Nevill's from lying by the AGA front to perch on a chair back?  Or something else?

[Roch]

Nicked almost word for word from the MailOnline.  What does Bamber mean by restaging the crime scene?  Interfering with/moving Sheila's body?, or shifting Nevill's from lying by the AGA front to perch on a chair back?  Or something else?

We already know that Sheila's crime scene was restaged because at least two TFG complained about it and went on to describe this as team (TFG) being unhappy and having 'real concerns'. They were gaslighted by senior officers on this.  Obviously it is something that the jury and defence never knew about, otherwise they would have had a field day in court.

[Zoso]

We already know that Sheila's crime scene was restaged because at least two TFG complained about it and went on to describe this as team (TFG) being unhappy and having 'real concerns'. They were gaslighted by senior officers on this.  Obviously it is something that the jury and defence never knew about, otherwise they would have had a field day in court.

They didn't say it was restaged, they just said they thought the bible was in a different position to the CS photo's. Where does it state that they had 'real concerns'?

[Roch]

They didn't say it was restaged, they just said they thought the bible was in a different position to the CS photo's. Where does it state that they had 'real concerns'?

They had concerns about the position of her head and the bible. They pushed this twice. I would have to read through again to confirm the exact wording. Not happy as a group or not happy as a team rings a bell. The inference is the scene was restaged after they left. It would not be possible to mistake Sheila's crime scene as per presented in the crime scene images.

[Zoso]

They had concerns about the position of her head and the bible. They pushed this twice. I would have to read through again to confirm the exact wording. Not happy as a group or not happy as a team rings a bell. The inference is the scene was restaged after they left. It would not be possible to mistake Sheila's crime scene as per presented in the crime scene images.

There were two who made the comment but there were a lot more that didn't.

[Roch]

There were two who made the comment but there were a lot more that didn't.

I think k not happy as a group means two spoke out but the rest shared concerns. You don't have a group of two.