Melanie Phillips: The case for Israel

[David1819]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mEuE-XiHj4

This 4 minute YouTube clip is an excellent antidote to the poisonous drivel of people like Melanie Phillips.

She would make a good Sonderkommando/Kapos

[ngb1066]

She would make a good Sonderkommando/Kapos

Utter rubbish.  The proper analogy would be anti - Nazi Germans in the late 1930s. 

 

[Steve_uk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mEuE-XiHj4

This 4 minute YouTube clip is an excellent antidote to the poisonous drivel of people like Melanie Phillips.

Not one sentence, not one word referencing October 7, 2023. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZGK9KbY5E3c?t=6&feature=share

[Steve_uk]

Utter rubbish.  The proper analogy would be anti - Nazi Germans in the late 1930s.

You remind me of the Jews who had fought bravely for Germany in the First World War. They were the most assimilated Jews of the diaspora and proudly displayed their war medals, certain in the belief Adolf Hitler, as a veteran of WW1, understood them. https://youtu.be/d173kJDnZRk

[ngb1066]

Not one sentence, not one word referencing October 7, 2023. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZGK9KbY5E3c?t=6&feature=share

Why should there be in the context of the clip I posted?  It really is a spurious argument to say that because terrible things were done on October 7 Israel's far worse genocidal actions must not be condemned.

 

[ngb1066]

You remind me of the Jews who had fought bravely for Germany in the First World War. They were the most assimilated Jews of the diaspora and proudly displayed their war medals, certain in the belief Adolf Hitler, as a veteran of WW1, understood them. https://youtu.be/d173kJDnZRk

What has that got to do with anything here?

[Steve_uk]

Why should there be in the context of the clip I posted?  It really is a spurious argument to say that because terrible things were done on October 7 Israel's far worse genocidal actions must not be condemned.

Hamas committed the atrocity. They must have spent years planning the attacks. Not one Palestinian came to the rescue of Jews that day, Jews who had previously transported Gazans on the border to use Jewish hospitals. Hamas and its backers must have known the onslaught which was the follow, cowardly hiding in their tunnels, whilst Gazans faced the full fury of the attack made in their name.

[Steve_uk]

What has that got to do with anything here?

..because Iran, which backs the terrorists, want the destruction of the Israeli state. Why should Jews, given their history, put their trust in anyone to defend them?

[snow66!]

Let this be your last battlefield

[ngb1066]

Hamas committed the atrocity. They must have spent years planning the attacks. Not one Palestinian came to the rescue of Jews that day, Jews who had previously transported Gazans on the border to use Jewish hospitals. Hamas and its backers must have known the onslaught which was the follow, cowardly hiding in their tunnels, whilst Gazans faced the full fury of the attack made in their name.

What relevance has that to the points I have made?  According to your logic, because an atrocity occurred involving Hamas any subsequent atrocity by Israel is justified, whatever the scale and whatever the nature and age of the victims.  Your moral values puzzle me.

 

[ngb1066]

..because Iran, which backs the terrorists, want the destruction of the Israeli state. Why should Jews, given their history, put their trust in anyone to defend them?

Again, what hs that to do with any points I have made?

[Steve_uk]

What relevance has that to the points I have made?  According to your logic, because an atrocity occurred involving Hamas any subsequent atrocity by Israel is justified, whatever the scale and whatever the nature and age of the victims.  Your moral values puzzle me.

 

The Israelis are facing an enemy which wants their destruction. It tries to minimize casualties, though terrorists are a legitimate target. https://www.jns.org/column/melanie-phillips/the-crumbling-wall-of-hamas-propaganda

[Steve_uk]

Again, what hs that to do with any points I have made?

Look at the bigger picture, please. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJE5_Zfo5Om/?hl=en-gb

[ngb1066]

The Israelis are facing an enemy which wants their destruction. It tries to minimize casualties, though terrorists are a legitimate target. https://www.jns.org/column/melanie-phillips/the-crumbling-wall-of-hamas-propaganda

You are quite shameless in your justification for and defence of the indefensible.  There is no crime committed by these Zionist scum which you will even mildly criticise. History will not judge people like you well.  I am sure of that. 

[ngb1066]

Look at the bigger picture, please. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJE5_Zfo5Om/?hl=en-gb

Melanie Phillips is a ghoul, just like Ephraim Mirvis and most of the Board of Deputies.  Fortunately there are many Jews who are decent and principled and reject this filth.