Emma Morris

[ILB]

Obviously Sheila couldn't load if all weapons and ammunition had been put into the gun cupboard. Even if the door wasn't locked.

She would not have the idea and not know what inside the gun cupboard went with what.

Bamber has to say he left the rifle, cartridge and bullets out. Then suggest Nevill and June must have not put anything away.

It was her childhood home as much as it was Bambers.

Both would have known the cupboard intimately

We know this

[Adam]

It was her childhood home as much as it was Bambers.

Both would have known the cupboard intimately

We know this

Disagree with that.

Sheila wouldn't know what went with what amongst the crowded gun cupboard.

She may know how to use the dart board. If there were darts close by.

She also wouldn't have the idea to start shooting everyone in the first place. 

Tragically Jeremy left the rifle, magazine and bullets out in the kitchen. Which was rude.

Then Nevill and June didn't put anything away.

[ILB]

Disagree with that.

Sheila wouldn't know what went with what amongst the crowded gun cupboard.

She may know how to use the dart board. If there were darts close by.

She also wouldn't have the idea to start shooting everyone in the first place. 

Tragically Jeremy left the rifle, magazine and bullets out in the kitchen. Which was rude.

Then Nevill and June didn't put anything away.

Crowded gun cupboard?

[ILB]

Tragically Jeremy left the rifle, magazine and bullets out in the kitchen. Which was rude.

He claimed at trial he was " being lackidasical"

[Adam]

He claimed at trial he was " being lackidasical"

That is one word for it.

Do you think Nevill was sleeping while Sheila loaded the rifle?

[Roch]

He claimed at trial he was " being lackidasical"

Somebody, possibly B Wilson, said Jeremy never expressed any remorse for having done this. I don't know whether that's true, but if it is, that is worrying. He should have wracked with guilt for it.

If I had done it I would be sickened with myself.

[ILB]

Somebody, possibly B Wilson, said Jeremy never expressed any remorse for having done this. I don't know whether that's true, but if it is, that is worrying. He should have wracked with guilt for it.

If I had done it I would be sickened with myself.

I don't see it like that to be honest. Irresponsible potentially dangerous in the sense of leaving guns out when there are children in the house yes. But in terms of being responsible for Shelias actions if Shelia is gulity. Then I don't think he should feel responsible.

That's just my opinion

[Zoso]

Why would a psychotic not be able to work it out?

Why? lol, read up about psychosis. If she were used to using it I could understand but it would have been a new task which in such a state, she wouldn’t have had the capacity to complete the various tasks needed to use it.

[Zoso]

Haven't done much research regarding what people are capable of doing during a psychotic episode Zoso.
But remember she was in a subdued,depressed state driving down to the farm.We dont know what delusions or depression she was suffering from on the night of the murders.
Maybe it was mostly severe depression that made her act,albeit with delusional thoughts too!

Yep, make it fit Snow, make it fit. Lol

[Roch]

Why? lol, read up about psychosis. If she were used to using it I could understand but it would have been a new task which in such a state, she wouldn’t have had the capacity to complete the various tasks needed to use it.

I believe she was brooding on the act before beginning to act it out. I believe her behaviour and thinking was affected and influenced by her psychosis. I believe the frenzied violence that resulted from this was the psychotic act.

[snow66!]

See, there's this thing about depression, Snow. When sufferers are so deep into it that they're no longer taking care of themselves, and not speaking, they lack the mental energy to do even the most simple task. Gearing themselves up to kill would be impossible. For verification, call Samaritans.

Oh well,thats that theory up the spout then Jane!

[Steve_uk]

Somebody, possibly B Wilson, said Jeremy never expressed any remorse for having done this. I don't know whether that's true, but if it is, that is worrying. He should have wracked with guilt for it.

If I had done it I would be sickened with myself.

All we got from that quarter was: "Well, I didn't know what was going to happen, did I.."

[ILB]

That is one word for it.

Do you think Nevill was sleeping while Sheila loaded the rifle?

No I don't

[Adam]

No I don't

What do you think Nevill was doing while Sheila loaded.

Obviously he still had not noticed the rifle, magazine and bullets.

[ILB]

What do you think Nevill was doing while Sheila loaded.

Obviously he still had not noticed the rifle, magazine and bullets.

During the event or beforehand ?