drh48 blood stained calendar

[Jane]

No. It was not considered a cockup until RB spoke with PS. It was not a cockup when they gave evidence to the coroner. A full four weeks elapsed. I hope you are not so trusting
in your own dealings in life. You are a good target for scammers.

I'd suggest it was a cock up from the off. I stand by what I said about their only information coming from JB, and it's reasonable to believe he put his own spin on the story he wove. All this was, undoubtedly, passed on up the chain until it reached Taff. The boy from the valleys obviously accepted it, hook, line, and sinker. After all, an articulate, public school educated young man, couldn't possibly be lying. Did he not say it was a "domestic" before rushing off. Did he not say something about the paper work involved?

[ILB]

'but also Neville if June had taken it (bible) downstairs to say prayers for him'.

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What was Sheila doing during this time, re loading?

" Four hour window "

[Adam]

" Four hour window "

What do you think Sheila would be doing while June was downstairs with the bible to say prayers for Nevill?

[Bubo bubo]

I'd suggest it was a cock up from the off. I stand by what I said about their only information coming from JB, and it's reasonable to believe he put his own spin on the story he wove. All this was, undoubtedly, passed on up the chain until it reached Taff. The boy from the valleys obviously accepted it, hook, line, and sinker. After all, an articulate, public school educated young man, couldn't possibly be lying. Did he not say it was a "domestic" before rushing off. Did he not say something about the paper work involved?

All this rushing off. First he is going to play Golf. Then he did this, then that. The truth is he had a meeting with the GPO and was accompanied by the most senior officer in the division.

West's log shows Harris was at the scene before Taff and they left together for a meeting with the GPO. So Harris would have inspected the scene himself with or without Taff. He would have seen the 'Locked house' and the bodies in situ. He was hardly going to wait around for Taff to finish his inspection before setting off together.

You can find his statement here.

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11914.msg547239.html#msg547239

[Zoso]

I thought it would be worthwhile to revisit this aspect of the case in view of the fact that Ainsley claimed to have sent all items to be tested when questioned on his actions when he was put in charge of the case.

To test or not to test that is the question?

Taff Jones was only interested in testing samples to confirm his diagnosis of ‘A Domestic’. It is therefore not surprising that he sent very little by way of samples to the lab. When the case changed to 5 murders they had a problem.

They had to be sure that any testing did not produce a result which would uncover their deception. Therefore it is possible that any item for which the origin of the blood was debateable or provided evidence that disproved their narrative was not sent for testing.

The bible is a classic example. It could have been spotted with blood from June (most likely), Sheila by contamination but also Neville if June had taken it downstairs to say prayers for him or she transferred his blood to it having touched him

I would also draw attention to DRH 45 & DRH 48

In his statements DRH lists items he collected on 9th August. I will not list them all.

DRH43      .22 Bullet case missed on previous search

DRH44       Paperback Bible

DRH45      Blood stained under sheet from bed in main bedroom

DRH46      Piece of blood stained wall paper.

DRH47      Blood scraping from stained carpet outside main bedroom

DRH48      Blood stained calendar from floor in kitchen near coal scuttle.

DRH49      Blood scraping from carpet on landing outside SC’s bedroom

If you examine John Haywards Specimen Testing list you will see that the items in red are conspicuous by their absence

It also appears that despite the huge amounts of blood in the kitchen none was tested. Of course by starting a new case file they could easily exclude much information which would have undermined their case. It is possible that Taff sent these to the lab in the first instance and all the documentation including results are in the original case file. Were there other items collected by another SOCO that were only used in the original case? They made a huge mistake with DB2 Fire debris.

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Where did you get the list that includes a 'bloodstained calendar'? The calendar was still on the wall above Nevill.

[Adam]

No reason to test all blood in WHF. Whoever the police thought responsible in the first hours.

The blood in the kitchen & hallway would be Nevill's as he was the only person who got downstairs.

Blood in the beds would be June's, Daniel's & Nicholas's.

They did check the blood on the main bedroom carpet. This confirmed June had moved across the room and back before Bamber fired shots 6 & 7 into her.

[Bubo bubo]

Where did you get the list that includes a 'bloodstained calendar'? The calendar was still on the wall above Nevill.

Try the man who found it (Hammersley) as in his statement dated 22/10/85. You will need to scroll down.

[Adam]

The police made no serious errors at the crime scene.

The raid team confirmed everyone was dead.

The police outside then let the photographer and pathologist do what they needed to do.

All overseen by Taff.

I assume the bed sheets and carpets were burnt days later.

[Bubo bubo]

The police made no serious errors at the crime scene.

The raid team confirmed everyone was dead.

The police outside then let the photographer and pathologist do what they needed to do.

All overseen by Taff.

I assume the bed sheets and carpets were burnt days later.

No pathogist entered the property on the day. This anoyed PV and he reported this.

[Zoso]

Try the man who found it (Hammersley) as in his statement dated 22/10/85. You will need to scroll down.

Cheers, found it. Don't understand it though - unless they had another calendar - but why have two?

[Bubo bubo]

Cheers, found it. Don't understand it though - unless they had another calendar - but why have two?

Sometimes on a working farm there may have been a family one and another indicating farm issues. It was a business after all.