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Offline Hardy Boy

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Re: Re: Julie Mugford Trial examination/cross examination
« Reply #315 on: January 10, 2024, 08:04:PM »
I've just done some research, and Energizer and Duracell alkaline batteries were freely available in 1985. 

EverReady changed its name to Energizer in 1980.  The batteries we have today would have looked very similar to the batteries from 1985, and would have been alkaline (although the older technology was still available).

The bike lights that I was using in 2006 before upgrading to LED lights looked near identical in design to the ones that were available in the 1980's.  And the ones I was using in 2006 were more than adequate for any type of cycling.  The biggest problem was that the connecters went dodgy after a while.  That has never happened with LED lights.

Even I was thinking about lights from the 50's and 60's in my initial comment (and maybe earlier), even though I wasn't born then. I don't know why I thought lights were so basic in the 80's.  They weren't.

So anyway, in 1985 it was possible to go into Halfords and buy high quality lights for a bike for an affordable price, that could also be very safely used today.
Some of my touring friends still use the Dynamo, mainly because it charges it self and they dont have to carry chargers for them, a little bit weighty though,   i think the problem with the ever ready battery was, it didn't last long and the bulb wasn't bright.  I have the Moon lights and Halfords own brand light 1800 lumens, i bought this one so i can charge my phone from it while out camping, the LEDS changed and advanced cycle lights.

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Re: Re: Julie Mugford Trial examination/cross examination
« Reply #316 on: January 10, 2024, 10:52:PM »
Both those points are correct.

It has never been an argument. It's common sense. It doesn't relate just to the trial. It's ridiculous to suggest he could cycle in absolute darkness.
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Re: Re: Julie Mugford Trial examination/cross examination
« Reply #317 on: January 11, 2024, 03:21:AM »
It has never been an argument. It's common sense. It doesn't relate just to the trial. It's ridiculous to suggest he could cycle in absolute darkness.

It is outside darkness in an open area. As Hardy Boy & Killingeve say, not a problem.

You are a lone wolf on this one. Have been since 1985. Accept defeat.

Your statement that Bamber was a member of a gym has been dismissed. No source was provided.
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Re: Re: Julie Mugford Trial examination/cross examination
« Reply #318 on: January 11, 2024, 08:29:AM »
It is outside darkness in an open area. As Hardy Boy & Killingeve say, not a problem.

You are a lone wolf on this one. Have been since 1985. Accept defeat.

Your statement that Bamber was a member of a gym has been dismissed. No source was provided.

The best thing about it is thats not even the source I was looking for. It's in the myriad of documents I have. And it comes from a fellow guilter of you. Il find it in due course.
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Re: Re: Julie Mugford Trial examination/cross examination
« Reply #319 on: January 11, 2024, 11:21:AM »
The best thing about it is thats not even the source I was looking for. It's in the myriad of documents I have. And it comes from a fellow guilter of you. Il find it in due course.

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Quoting Steve's recent post.

Steve please provide a source that Bamber went to a gym.

Ideally need to know the location. The 2023 gyms Kestrel mentioned are 4.6 - 9 miles from Goldhanger 
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Re: Re: Julie Mugford Trial examination/cross examination
« Reply #320 on: January 11, 2024, 12:32:PM »
Quoting Steve's recent post.

Steve please provide a source that Bamber went to a gym.

Ideally need to know the location. The 2023 gyms Kestrel mentioned are 4.6 - 9 miles from Goldhanger

You do realise we are discussing events from 1985
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« Reply #321 on: January 11, 2024, 12:51:PM »
You do realise we are discussing events from 1985

Why do you think the CT give a totally different reason for the bike arriving than Bamber testified?
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Re: Re: Julie Mugford Trial examination/cross examination
« Reply #322 on: January 11, 2024, 08:09:PM »
The best thing about it is thats not even the source I was looking for. It's in the myriad of documents I have. And it comes from a fellow guilter of you. Il find it in due course.
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Re: Re: Julie Mugford Trial examination/cross examination
« Reply #323 on: January 11, 2024, 08:11:PM »
Quoting Steve's recent post.

Steve please provide a source that Bamber went to a gym.

Ideally need to know the location. The 2023 gyms Kestrel mentioned are 4.6 - 9 miles from Goldhanger
I don't have a source. But he has used one in prison, as we all know.

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Re: Re: Julie Mugford Trial examination/cross examination
« Reply #324 on: January 11, 2024, 08:16:PM »
I don't have a source. But he has used one in prison, as we all know.

Back to square one.

No gym or shops for Julie to cycle to.
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Re: Re: Julie Mugford Trial examination/cross examination
« Reply #325 on: January 11, 2024, 08:31:PM »
Back to square one.

No gym or shops for Julie to cycle to.
Didn't she cycle to Maldon Growers, or was that on a previous occasion?

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Re: Re: Julie Mugford Trial examination/cross examination
« Reply #326 on: January 11, 2024, 08:40:PM »
Didn't she cycle to Maldon Growers, or was that on a previous occasion?

Says that is an 11 minute walk.
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Re: Re: Julie Mugford Trial examination/cross examination
« Reply #327 on: January 11, 2024, 09:22:PM »
I love that you may think that in 1985 it was a physical impossibility for a human being to cycle across 3 miles of flat Essex countryside in the dark.

Walking to Antarctica, no problem.  Climbing Everest, no problem.  Walk on the moon, no problem.

Cycle across 3 miles of Essex countryside in the dark on a warm moonlit summers night. NO!!! Absolutely not. Impossible.

You're funny!

The moon that night was around 64% illumination quite low in the sky and the weather partly cloudy.

I would not call that a moonlit summers night.

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Re: Re: Julie Mugford Trial examination/cross examination
« Reply #328 on: January 11, 2024, 09:29:PM »
Didn't she cycle to Maldon Growers, or was that on a previous occasion?
According to CAL Julie asked for Jine's bike after the break-up.
Who on earth would want a bike IF they knew it had been used to carry out one of the worst shootings in British history Steve?

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Re: Re: Julie Mugford Trial examination/cross examination
« Reply #329 on: January 11, 2024, 09:33:PM »
According to CAL Julie asked for Jine's bike after the break-up.
Who on earth would want a bike IF they knew it had been used to carry out one of the worst shootings in British history Steve?

The bike arrived 2 days before the massacre.
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