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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1290 on: April 20, 2024, 07:39:PM »
Adam, I know you are pro police ( until you are arrested) but I would be interested on your opinion on this chaps comment, ( undeneath the unbiased ex met detective Peter Bleksley )
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1291 on: April 20, 2024, 07:53:PM »
I have not seen Philip Walkers take on the sea wall.

I think GG taking his blog down is somewhat significant

Miller was biased, he was part of the CID that brought Bamber to trial. Wilkinson was a DI working under Ainsley. ( The top guy)

What did RB say?

Phillip said Bamber could be spotted from distance. As The Sea Wall was an open area with good light.

Do you think the defence did not check Wilkinson's WS. They had a year.
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1292 on: April 20, 2024, 08:15:PM »
Phillip said Bamber could be spotted from distance. As The Sea Wall was an open area with good light.

Do you think the defence did not check Wilkinson's WS. They had a year.

No I don't as I've stated before.

The mantra was Bamber was in his cottage asleep until he was woken by his dad.

You know this.
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1293 on: April 20, 2024, 08:19:PM »
No I don't as I've stated before.

The mantra was Bamber was in his cottage asleep until he was woken by his dad.

You know this.

I believe they did check the route.

Do you think it would have been a good idea for the defence to check Bamber's route?

They had a year.
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« Reply #1294 on: April 20, 2024, 08:21:PM »
To be honest the only way you could create reasonable doubt to make this compelling as a none starter ( the sea wall) was to take the jury on an excersise and visit to the sea wall and the route the prosecution alleged Bamber took on the night.

Obviously this would have to be replicated in the middle of the night to represent a true picture.

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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1295 on: April 20, 2024, 08:23:PM »
I believe they did check the route.

Do you think it would have been a good idea for the defence to check Bamber's route?

They had a year.

We would have to either ask Jeremy Bamber or Paul Terzeon or Geoffrey Rivlin. I think Geoffrey Rivlin is still alive, may be wrong.

I know that Ed Lawson junion counsel died some years ago.
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1296 on: April 20, 2024, 08:24:PM »
I personally don't think they did check the route.

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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1297 on: April 20, 2024, 08:24:PM »
To be honest the only way you could create reasonable doubt to make this compelling as a none starter ( the sea wall) was to take the jury on an excersise and visit to the sea wall and the route the prosecution alleged Bamber took on the night.

Obviously this would have to be replicated in the middle of the night to represent a true picture.

Do you think Bamber told his defence cycling The Sea Wall was 'impossible' and 'laughable'?
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1298 on: April 20, 2024, 08:25:PM »
I personally don't think they did check the route.

Wilkinson got lucky then.
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« Reply #1299 on: April 20, 2024, 08:27:PM »
Do you think Bamber told his defence cycling The Sea Wall was 'impossible' and 'laughable'?

I believe he probably did in legal visits whilst on remand.

As said no transcript of the Rivlin and Bamber direct survives.

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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1300 on: April 20, 2024, 08:28:PM »
Wilkinson got lucky then.

Bambers defence was he was innocent.

His mantra was he never made a journey and was home in the cottage.

That was the defence at Chelmsford in 1986.
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1301 on: April 20, 2024, 08:29:PM »
In fairness, a jury visit to the sea wall may have been beneficial
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1302 on: April 20, 2024, 08:30:PM »
But it had to replicate in my view the time the accused made the journey.

Going at 10am in the morning wouldn't have been useful
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1303 on: April 20, 2024, 08:49:PM »
But it had to replicate in my view the time the accused made the journey.

Going at 10am in the morning wouldn't have been useful

Do you think the defence went there at night. But realised there was good ambient light. As RB, GG & Phillip said and my hundreds of photos show?
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #1304 on: April 20, 2024, 08:50:PM »
Do you think the defence went there at night. But realised there was good ambient light. As RB, GG & Phillip said and my hundreds of photos show?

No I don't.
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