Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall

[Adam]

Seems Adam has put up a picture of a random couple living a Darby and Joan life as a detriment to Jeremy Bamber.

The logic escapes me.

Maybe an intervention is required?

Your the one that put up pictures.

I put up sources.

Focus on BBQ's and teenagers. At least until your visit.

[Rob_]

Summary -

Pre artificial lighting - The whole world.

Current situation - Villages in England. Villages around the world. Millions of people have no artificial lighting.

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And ILB says Bamber couldn't cycle for 20 minutes between where he lived & worked!

Perhaps you can explain why police officers in London prior to street lighting carried lanterns Adam?

[ILB]

Your the one that put up pictures.

I put up sources.

Focus on BBQ's and teenagers. At least until your visit.

I know what you was trying to insinuate.

However it's not logical and a comparison cannot be drawn between the two events.

[ILB]

Anyway we are being told to compare.

Stargazing in Norfolk.

A couples Darby and Joan life in Surrey.

A Christmas tree in worcestershire.

And Jeremy Bamber, convicted of slaughtering his family in 1985 in Essex.

[Rob_]

Now I've dismissed the cycling in the dark theory, ILB will be going on about BBQ's, teenagers, night fishermen and camping. After BD claimed this happened 5 miles away at a caravan site.

Goodness knows what Rob will come up with after his weird 'right of way' theory was dismissed.

Great.

Public rights of way is not a theory Adam, have you found out which maps show them? I am trying to remember so I can tell you 

Why do manufactures make cycle lights if they are totally unnecessary Adam? The world is daft 

As rear bike lights are made to make you visible to other road users rather than light your route, they aren’t typically as bright as front lights. Most rear bikes go up to 100 lumens, so the closer you can get to this number, the better.

Your front lights will automatically be far brighter, and you should use our above guide on lit and unlit roads to inform your choice.

To cycle safely on unlit roads (especially rural ones) you’ll need between 400 to 600 lumens for maximum visibility. Without external lighting, your vision will be impaired significantly, and you’ll be less visible to drivers.

[Adam]

Public rights of way is not a theory Adam, have you found out which maps show them? I am trying to remember so I can tell you 

Why do manufactures make cycle lights if they are totally unnecessary Adam? The world is daft 

As rear bike lights are made to make you visible to other road users rather than light your route, they aren’t typically as bright as front lights. Most rear bikes go up to 100 lumens, so the closer you can get to this number, the better.

Your front lights will automatically be far brighter, and you should use our above guide on lit and unlit roads to inform your choice.

To cycle safely on unlit roads (especially rural ones) you’ll need between 400 to 600 lumens for maximum visibility. Without external lighting, your vision will be impaired significantly, and you’ll be less visible to drivers.

I have no idea whether Bamber used a front light.

He wouldn't need to for a 20 minute cycle ride. He had lived and worked between the 2 properties for years.

Him & millions of other people around the world are easily able to function in areas with no artificial lighting. He lived in Goldhanger which had none!

Move on.

[ILB]

Seems Bamber had x-ray vision and night vision goggles.

[ILB]

Was Bamber a cat ?

Could he morph?

[Adam]

I don't agree everyone in Goldhanger used night vision goggles when it got dark.

Residents will know there surroundings & use natural light.

However if wrong, Bamber would have then used his night vision goggles to cycle The Sea Wall.

[Adam]

I don't believe farm workers worked at 2am in the area. As ILB suggested.

However if they did they used the ambient light & land knowledge or night vision goggles.

Bamber either used the ambient light and land knowledge, or night vision goggles to cycle The Sea Wall.

[Adam]

I don't believe farmers in winter just worked when it was light. This would limit there hours to 8am - 4pm.

Obviously they worked beyond those hours using the ambient light and knowledge of the land.

[Rob_]

I don't believe farmers in winter just worked when it was light. This would limit there hours to 8am - 4pm.

Obviously they worked beyond those hours using the ambient light and knowledge of the land.

I often work all through the night Adam, but I used head lights and usually carry two or three torches.

Please stop posting total crap!

[Adam]

I often work all through the night Adam, but I used head lights and usually carry two or three torches.

Please stop posting total crap!

Obviously farmers need there hands free. So won't be holding two or three torches.

Please stop posting total crap.

[Adam]

Rob is now saying he holds 'two or three torches'.  And headlights.

What's he doing painting a picture with his mouth?

[Rob_]

Obviously farmers need there hands free. So won't be holding two or three torches.

Please stop posting total crap.

You are a joke Adam, it's sad you cannot discuss the case seriously.