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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #495 on: March 31, 2024, 02:00:PM »
No it doesntm

https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/bicycle

The prosecution route/6978 has Bamber turning left off The Sea Wall.

He then cycles 0.4 miles up the cycle path to Pages Lane. As said, in my estimation the cycle path is about as wide as a car.

You can report back with photos on the terrain of this after your visit.
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #496 on: March 31, 2024, 02:51:PM »
https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/bicycle

The prosecution route/6978 has Bamber turning left off The Sea Wall.

He then cycles 0.4 miles up the cycle path to Pages Lane. As said, in my estimation the cycle path is about as wide as a car.

You can report back with photos on the terrain of this after your visit.

How it's four fields good terrain ?
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #497 on: March 31, 2024, 02:56:PM »
Anyway as far as I am concerned there is a perfectly adequate cycle path. From The Sea Wall to Pages Lane.

This is as wide as Pages Lane & 0.4 miles long.

It runs alongside the fields. As cycle paths do on farmland!

Wilkinson said - level terrain.

Anyone can go on Google Maps & check.

Can you post the actual route you are proposing Adam, because I cannot see a cycle path, a very unfriendly track maybe, but it's not a official public right of way?

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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #498 on: March 31, 2024, 02:59:PM »
Can you post the actual route you are proposing Adam, because I cannot see a cycle path, a very unfriendly track maybe, but it's not a official public right of way?

He is trolling.
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #499 on: March 31, 2024, 03:06:PM »
He is trolling.

Yes I know ILB, I do a lot of walking when I get the time so am used to using maps, cycle path from the sea wall to Pages Lane I don't think so?

Lets see if Adam comes up with a route?

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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #500 on: March 31, 2024, 03:09:PM »
Yes I know ILB, I do a lot of walking when I get the time so am used to using maps, cycle path from the sea wall to Pages Lane I don't think so?

Lets see if Adam comes up with a route?

Don't know why Adam is disputing the route going over fields

Jeremy and RB are on record stating it does and will both know the local area

Don't know what he is trying to achieve.
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #501 on: March 31, 2024, 03:22:PM »
Please elaborate on why Bamber would drive when he had a bike. Julie & the prosecution say he cycled The Sea Wall.

Don't just say you think he drove & then disappear from the forum for several weeks. Which you did last time.

I don't come here as much now, that's just the way it is.

I think he would have driven because it was easier. He may have done several dummy runs to see who was about at that time. Did Julie actually state that he cycled? As far as she was concerned, a MM was responsible for the actual murders and the prosecution gave the cycle as a possibility - they can't 'know' he used it.

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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #502 on: March 31, 2024, 03:32:PM »
Don't know why Adam is disputing the route going over fields

Jeremy and RB are on record stating it does and will both know the local area

Don't know what he is trying to achieve.

I agree, also he states that the route from the sea wall to Pages Lane went no where near any properties but it does. It goes right through a farm!

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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #503 on: March 31, 2024, 03:35:PM »
I don't come here as much now, that's just the way it is.

I think he would have driven because it was easier. He may have done several dummy runs to see who was about at that time. Did Julie actually state that he cycled? As far as she was concerned, a MM was responsible for the actual murders and the prosecution gave the cycle as a possibility - they can't 'know' he used it.

I agree, the prosecution just say he did because of the timings.

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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #504 on: March 31, 2024, 04:05:PM »
Cycling looks good because a bike was his cottage and cycling adds more emphasis to a prosecution narrative " he went via cycle to be quiet and not be seen. Using the sea wall. Which one paper looks good because it's apparently a desolate track.

I think the truth is if gulity is he simply jumped in the car. The area was desolate and the houses he would encounter were set back. There's little risk in driving in itself. The biggest risk of driving is not been seen or heard  but the car breaking down on the return journey to his cottage. As said if thst happened he would have been well and truly been up shit creek without a paddle. However the odds of that happening were probably slim, the astra car was pretty much brand new and probably well maintained. He later went to meet the police in the car without been seen. Bews remarking that Bambers car was the only one he saw.

He can if he wants to be extra cautious. Park half way down pages lane ( out of sight of farmworkers houses ) and simply saunter down to WHF. Do what he did. Leave the farmhouse get back in the car and return home.

I don't think Bamber was a guy who had much care about " risk " if anything he is rash, impulsive and risk taker. A man who can carry out of what he is convicted of is a large risk taker in itself. In the aftermath of the event he didn't even bother to act ( if he is gulity ) like a Bereaved relative, selling stuff, smuggling drugs, attempting to sell pictures of Shelia, mocking the coppers with his Hugo boss suit label. The guy if gulity told his girlfriend what he did and expected she would never breathe a word to anyone!



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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #505 on: March 31, 2024, 04:10:PM »
The neighbour who saw his car parked outside all night is probably meaing before they went to bed at let's say midnight, his car was still there. Which of course it would be, as he didn't leave till a couple of hours later.
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #506 on: March 31, 2024, 05:38:PM »
I don't come here as much now, that's just the way it is.

I think he would have driven because it was easier. He may have done several dummy runs to see who was about at that time. Did Julie actually state that he cycled? As far as she was concerned, a MM was responsible for the actual murders and the prosecution gave the cycle as a possibility - they can't 'know' he used it.

Do you not think it's better to be safe for over 500k.

Driving past 45 properties, 90 people & security cameras because 'it's easier'  is not much good if he spends 39 years in prison.

But each to there own.
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #507 on: March 31, 2024, 05:40:PM »
He is trolling.

You are the troll. A criminal one as well.
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #508 on: March 31, 2024, 05:42:PM »
Cycling looks good because a bike was his cottage and cycling adds more emphasis to a prosecution narrative " he went via cycle to be quiet and not be seen. Using the sea wall. Which one paper looks good because it's apparently a desolate track.

I think the truth is if gulity is he simply jumped in the car. The area was desolate and the houses he would encounter were set back. There's little risk in driving in itself. The biggest risk of driving is not been seen or heard  but the car breaking down on the return journey to his cottage. As said if thst happened he would have been well and truly been up shit creek without a paddle. However the odds of that happening were probably slim, the astra car was pretty much brand new and probably well maintained. He later went to meet the police in the car without been seen. Bews remarking that Bambers car was the only one he saw.

He can if he wants to be extra cautious. Park half way down pages lane ( out of sight of farmworkers houses ) and simply saunter down to WHF. Do what he did. Leave the farmhouse get back in the car and return home.

I don't think Bamber was a guy who had much care about " risk " if anything he is rash, impulsive and risk taker. A man who can carry out of what he is convicted of is a large risk taker in itself. In the aftermath of the event he didn't even bother to act ( if he is gulity ) like a Bereaved relative, selling stuff, smuggling drugs, attempting to sell pictures of Shelia, mocking the coppers with his Hugo boss suit label. The guy if gulity told his girlfriend what he did and expected she would never breathe a word to anyone!

Each to there own.

You are more reckless. Which resulted in a 12 stretch.

I would take the least risk approach - passing no properties.
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Re: Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall
« Reply #509 on: March 31, 2024, 05:43:PM »
Don't know why Adam is disputing the route going over fields

Jeremy and RB are on record stating it does and will both know the local area

Don't know what he is trying to achieve.

It goes alongside fields. Which is why the prosecution has it as there route.

They are not going to have a route which goes across fields.

You know this.
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