Barbara De"ath discussing sea wall

[ILB]

I don't think transport was his biggest problem to be honest. And even if they proved the wall was impossible to do there are still other routes.

[Jane]

As said Bamber himself fixed the narrative it was either him or Shelia by his phonecall to the police. Destroying any chance of a third party involvement being brought up

Very difficult case to defend in all honesty. I've always believed they his counsel were convinced of his guilt. But at the end of the day all they do is put their clients case forward.

He must have been supremely confident, having fixed the narrative, that Sheila's culpability would be accepted.

[ILB]

He must have been supremely confident, having fixed the narrative, that Sheila's culpability would be accepted.

Totally agree.

And initially at least from the police perspective it indeed was. ( Officially I know sbj and others had misgivings from the outset)

[Adam]

I don't think transport was his biggest problem to be honest. And even if they proved the wall was impossible to do there are still other routes.

Be standard practice for the defence to check the prosecution route. Day & night.

They can then debunk it at trial. The prosecution can't change routes mid trial.

The Sea Wall was unbreakable.

[Adam]

As Yvonne Hartley said, the defence didn't take the jury to The Sea Wall.

A wise move by them.

[ILB]

Be standard practice for the defence to check the prosecution route. Day & night.

They can then debunk it at trial. The prosecution can't change routes mid trial.

The Sea Wall was unbreakable.

That still doesn't rule out he went via other routes.

The guys ex partner was saying he had confessed to her.

Apparently his sisters blood on the silencer. Which is said to have been used in the killings

Think the defence had bigger problems in my view.

[Jane]

Totally agree.

And initially at least from the police perspective it indeed was. ( Officially I know sbj and others had misgivings from the outset)

I know of one who, after speaking to JB, never shifted from his guilty stance.

[ILB]

As Yvonne Hartley said, the defence didn't take the jury to The Sea Wall.

A wise move by them.

Then we have our answer. And your opinion it was a wise move.

Me personally, I don't think the trial rested on transport.

[Steve_uk]

He must have been supremely confident, having fixed the narrative, that Sheila's culpability would be accepted.

Yes, and not worried about Julie, though surprisingly Ann Eaton's likely input nagged him, hence his flattery  in the prologue to the murders and his tour de force that first day at Bourtree Cottage.

[Adam]

That still doesn't rule out he went via other routes.

The guys ex partner was saying he had confessed to her.

Apparently his sisters blood on the silencer. Which is said to have been used in the killings

Think the defence had bigger problems in my view.

The route is vital.

If they debunk The Sea Wall it undermines the prosecution badly. They can't change routes mid trial. The other routes are also weaker & the defence would attack them.

But the defence knew The Sea Wall was unbreakable. So it was - 'it was possible but that doesn't mean he did'.

[ILB]

I know of one who, after speaking to JB, never shifted from his guilty stance.

Maybe if he'd played the grieving son more effectively it might had made a difference.

Was shocked SBJ said to him on the morning of the killings " your family are dead pull yourself together "

How times have changed, in 2024 he'd probably be subject to a disciplinary procedure!

[Adam]

Then we have our answer. And your opinion it was a wise move.

Me personally, I don't think the trial rested on transport.

So that's why your going to message BD & visit The Sea Wall.

[ILB]

The route is vital.

If they debunk The Sea Wall it undermines the prosecution badly. They can't change routes mid trial. The other routes are also weaker & the defence would attack them.

But the defence knew The Sea Wall was unbreakable. So it was - 'it was possible but that doesn't mean he did'.

The words was " he used a route that avoided the back roads "

Wilkinsons statement was that the route was decent.

If the defence had countered it would have been up for deliberation who they believed.

Julie also said as Ainsley thought he would cycle the brook track not the sea wall.

So not massively detrimental the defence disputing the sea wall.

[ILB]

So that's why your going to message BD & visit The Sea Wall.

I am working In Essex in May.

I have a big interest in the case.

So do you.

[Jane]

Maybe if he'd played the grieving son more effectively it might had made a difference.

Was shocked SBJ said to him on the morning of the killings " your family are dead pull yourself together "

How times have changed, in 2024 he'd probably be subject to a disciplinary procedure!

Might it have been that SBJ saw the play acting?