Inspector D Burrell 13/09/85

[Roch]

Whether or not it was Neville or Sheila who'd left the phone off the hook David Shaw made reference that at 05.40 EP had asked the BT operator to again listen into the open line,to which at that time,it was engaged. So after the phone had been off the hook,the handset had to be replaced in order to make an outside call-------to whom ??
A few minutes later the line was checked again and it was found that the handset was off its cradle again.
The only report that the operator made was hearing the dog/s barking in the background,but no report that someone used that phone at 05.40 as it would have been heard by the operator.

Tone arguments aside - is there a link available for the precise page in Shaw's manuscript that discusses this allegation?

[lookout]

Being on opposing sides isn't justification for continually touting out the same thing when it's clearly wrong, simply because one lacks the grace and humility to back down.

Pot.Kettle.Black !

[Caroline]

Tone arguments aside - is there a link available for the precise page in Shaw's manuscript that discusses this allegation?

Why? Do you know who Shaw is? Why should anyone take any notice of this? Also, peole are trying to suggest that because the words like engaged and busy were interchangeable, it mean the phone was in a different state - this is just silly.

[Caroline]

I don't have time to read the Shaw stuff but a quick search didn't provide any evidence of what Lookout claimed, you may have more luck. The link provided by Andrea is no longer active but anyone interested, can find some of the Shaw stuff here http://youknowwhokilledyoudontyou.blogspot.co.uk/2011/02/innocent-man-by-david-shaw.html

The original site is gone - I wonder why 

[Roch]

Why? Do you know who Shaw is? Why should anyone take any notice of this? Also, peole are trying to suggest that because the words like engaged and busy were interchangeable, it mean the phone was in a different state - this is just silly.

I'm not one of the people who think Shaw was/is Mike Tesko.  I've never actually read the manuscript all the way through.  However I would probably take the content in to consideration and weigh it against other claims.  I used to like reading the emails that Mike put up.  (Sorry!  )

[Caroline]

I'm not one of the people who think Shaw was/is Mike Tesko.  I've never actually read the manuscript all the way through.  However I would probably take the content in to consideration and weigh it against other claims.  I used to like reading the emails that Mike put up.  (Sorry!  )

Well, personally, I'd rather know who the person is before taking any notice of what they say. It's just words and unfounded claims.

[Roch]

Well, personally, I'd rather know who the person is before taking any notice of what they say. It's just words and unfounded claims.

Well it's supposed to be the bloke behind the book referred to here:

https://carvedouttastone.wordpress.com/2015/12/01/over-the-edge-david-shaw/

http://library.la84.org/SportsLibrary/ASSH%20Bulletins/No%2027/ASSHBulletin27c.pdf

Read reply no. 11 on this thread:

https://www.superiormuscle.com/forums/anabolic-steroids/18839-steroid-deaths

[Caroline]

Well it's supposed to be the bloke behind the book referred to here:

https://carvedouttastone.wordpress.com/2015/12/01/over-the-edge-david-shaw/

http://library.la84.org/SportsLibrary/ASSH%20Bulletins/No%2027/ASSHBulletin27c.pdf

Read reply no. 11 on this thread:

https://www.superiormuscle.com/forums/anabolic-steroids/18839-steroid-deaths

Why?Because he has the same name? Where's the connection?

[Roch]

Why?Because he has the same name? Where's the connection?

I cant remember.  The search facility wont let me go back to 2010 - which is when I think he's first mentioned by Kaldin. 

Also - I think somewhere in the emails later posted up by Mike (couple of different threads) - 'Shaw' makes reference to his past. 

I think he's either NZ or Aus or links to both. 

[lookout]

Tone arguments aside - is there a link available for the precise page in Shaw's manuscript that discusses this allegation?

Yes,it's in a typed letter to Mike and on this forum somewhere.

I can't remember the blasted heading 

[lookout]

The man is Australian. His name's a pseudonym. He wrote a book called " Over the Edge " which received good feedbacks

[Caroline]

Yes,it's in a typed letter to Mike and on this forum somewhere.

I can't remember the blasted heading 

Another one f those "somewhere on the forum" 

[lookout]

Another one f those "somewhere on the forum" 

Yes-------that's where I saw it last !

[Roch]

Another one f those "somewhere on the forum" 

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,776.msg20391/topicseen.html#msg20391

Not sure if what Lookout is referring to is in here. 

[lookout]

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,776.msg20391/topicseen.html#msg20391

Not sure if what Lookout is referring to is in here.

That's the one Roch. I haven't read the letter right through but I imagine there have been a few changes since it was written.