The beauty of THREE marks for supporters

[Adam]

Adam,I dont believe ANYONE lifted Nevill on to the chair/scuttle!

So how is Bamber exonerated? 

[Hardy Boy]

If you check my posts HB,you will find that I have never claimed that the police moved Nevill.

I never said you did, i said you have to prove who moved him from the AGA to the chair where the police found him.  Anyone can make any claim, proving it is another thing.  Different experts have all given their idea's as well, it's not proof though.

[snow66!]

Good.

The aga door would be hot. It is so thick all the heat stays inside.

Its the handles that got hot Adam,maybe they are made of different matal than the doors and conduct heat better?

[Zoso]

I have tried to explain how it exonerates Bamber from every possible angle Zoso,sorry that it has had no effect on you.

How?

[Zoso]

I never said you did, i said you have to prove who moved him from the AGA to the chair where the police found him.  Anyone can make any claim, proving it is another thing.  Different experts have all given their idea's as well, it's not proof though.

Exactly, even if you could prove it was the Aga, Bamber could have killed everyone earlier and STILL moved Nevill before leaving the house.

[Adam]

It is correct that the pathologist does not say any of Nevill's injuries were from falling onto the coal scuttle 

They were either bullets or from the rifle butt.

This confirms Bamber placed him onto the coal scuttle/chair. To get good access to his back and head.

[Hardy Boy]

Adam,I dont believe ANYONE lifted Nevill on to the chair/scuttle!

How does the AGA burn him Snow if he's in the chair and his back is away from the AGA? 

[snow66!]

I never said you did, i said you have to prove who moved him from the AGA to the chair where the police found him.  Anyone can make any claim, proving it is another thing.  Different experts have all given their idea's as well, it's not proof though.

A few of us think that Nevill lay against the Aga having been knocked out by Sheila before getting uo himself and ending up on the chair/scuttle.
We dont think anyone moved Nevill HB,he simply ended up on the chair/scuttle by his own steam.

[snow66!]

Exactly, even if you could prove it was the Aga, Bamber could have killed everyone earlier and STILL moved Nevill before leaving the house.

Depends how long the burns took to form Zoso.
We are waiting for the answer from Boyce/CT.
Bamber definately wouldn't have left Nevill lying against the Aga for hours before moving him and exiting the house.

[Adam]

A few of us think that Nevill lay against the Aga having been knocked out by Sheila before getting uo himself and ending up on the chair/scuttle.
We dont think anyone moved Nevill HB,he simply ended up on the chair/scuttle by his own steam.

So he was shot 8 times and attacked in the kitchen.

Fell against the aga for hours.

Then got up, put his pyjama top on and fell onto the coal scuttle/chair.

[snow66!]

So he was shot 8 times and attacked in the kitchen.

Fell against the aga for hours.

Then got up, put his pyjama top on and fell onto the coal scuttle/chair.

Nevill was knocked out and fell against the Aga before regaining conciousness and being shot several times and beaten before slumping on the chair/scuttle where he received the final four head shots.
The only person to see Nevill lying against the Aga was Sheila,and she is dead,that is why it has taken so long to work out what made the marks.
Clear Adam?

[Adam]

Nevill was knocked out and fell against the Aga before regaining conciousness and being shot several times and beaten before slumping on the chair/scuttle where he received the final four head shots.
The only person to see Nevill lying against the Aga was Sheila,and she is dead,that is why it has taken so long to work out what made the marks.
Clear Adam?

So he was shot 4 times and beaten in the kitchen.

He falls on a cold aga door.

He wakes up, puts his pyjama top on. Goes back downstairs and falls onto the coal scuttle without knocking it over.

Sheila is still alive and shoots him 4 more times.

[Zoso]

Depends how long the burns took to form Zoso.
We are waiting for the answer from Boyce/CT.
Bamber definately wouldn't have left Nevill lying against the Aga for hours before moving him and exiting the house.

How would you know? If not Bamber, then who? You just said you didn't say it was the police but you have hinted at it - who else could have moved him?

[snow66!]

How would you know? If not Bamber, then who? You just said you didn't say it was the police but you have hinted at it - who else could have moved him?

Himself Zoso!

[snow66!]

So he was shot 4 times and beaten in the kitchen.

He falls on a cold aga door.

He wakes up, puts his pyjama top on. Goes back downstairs and falls onto the coal scuttle without knocking it over.

Sheila is still alive and shoots him 4 more times.

Nevill was knocked out and fell against the Aga before he received any gun shot wounds Adam.