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Offline Adam

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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #255 on: September 24, 2023, 11:06:AM »
I just discuss all aspects of the case from the information available and research.

You need to have  a more focused aporoach. An angle which could get a release on a technicality.

Just saying everything that incriminates Bamber is wrong & everyone lied won't work as there are hundreds of pieces.
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #256 on: September 24, 2023, 11:13:AM »
Seems that on a date in July 1985, a day after getting an haloperidol  injection, Shelia was out on a date with another man. And also enquiring about finding some work.

But I appreciate Adam saying she was a complete vegetable

Also began a new job as a babysitter!


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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #257 on: September 24, 2023, 11:14:AM »
You need to have  a more focused aporoach. An angle which could get a release on a technicality.

Just saying everything that incriminates Bamber is wrong & everyone lied won't work as there are hundreds of pieces.

What's a technicality your definition ?

Forth request

Compelling new evidence quashes convictions
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #258 on: September 24, 2023, 11:16:AM »
It boils down to whether she could handle the rifle of not.

Please do not try to over simplify things.

She would have to overpower a man 5 times stronger than her and a woman who did her shopping and cooking!

And she couldn't handle the rifle and there is no evidence she did.
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #259 on: September 24, 2023, 11:17:AM »
Shelia began work as a babysitter in 1985.

I wouldn't let somebody who was immobile, no coordination, strength, wherewithal look after my children !
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #260 on: September 24, 2023, 11:19:AM »
Please do not try to over simplify things.

She would have to overpower a man 5 times stronger than her and a woman who did her shopping and cooking!

And she couldn't handle the rifle and there is no evidence she did.

I like how you've turned June from a bewildered housewife to Ivan Drago.
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #261 on: September 24, 2023, 11:20:AM »
What's a technicality your definition ?

Forth request

Compelling new evidence quashes convictions

Each of Bamber's 8 point CCRC is a technicality.

Ditto his 16 point COA submission.

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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #262 on: September 24, 2023, 11:21:AM »
Please do not try to over simplify things.

One of the cornerstones of the case is Shelia been unable to operate and load and reload the rifle
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #263 on: September 24, 2023, 11:22:AM »
I like how you've turned June from a bewildered housewife to Ivan Drago.

June looked after Sheila. Sheila could not do a job, look after the twins and needed long stays in hospital and powerful injections.

She was a mouse to the slaughter.

Move on.
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #264 on: September 24, 2023, 11:24:AM »
Goodness knows how many technicality efforts he will make if he got a COA referral.

In the hope one works.
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #265 on: September 24, 2023, 11:25:AM »
June looked after Sheila. Sheila could not do a job, look after the twins and needed long stays in hospital and powerful injections.

She was a mouse to the slaughter.

Move on.

Stop making falsehoods!

Shelia was looking for work and gained it in July 1985 for goodness sake!
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #266 on: September 24, 2023, 11:27:AM »
Goodness knows how many technicality efforts he will make if he got a COA referral.

In the hope one works.


They are not technicalitys, they are potential grounds of appeal
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #267 on: September 24, 2023, 11:31:AM »
Seems like Shelia was originally going to plan to go away in the first week of August with her pals along with Daniel and Nicholas to France for a holiday.

Was June supposed to go as well Adam?
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #268 on: September 24, 2023, 11:32:AM »
Stop making falsehoods!

Shelia was looking for work and gained it in July 1985 for goodness sake!


Oh, c'mon, ILB! She was -momentarily!- employed as a cleaner. It was very short lived. We're talking about a privately educated female who ought to have been capable of more than menial jobs. She wasn't even capable of holding on to those.

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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #269 on: September 24, 2023, 11:32:AM »
Stop making falsehoods!

Shelia was looking for work and gained it in July 1985 for goodness sake!

Work in July 85?

So that's why she spent a week in early August being looked after by CC, June and Nevill.
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