Was Sheila's illness curable?

[ILB]

ILB can support one or more of the technicalities Bamber has or had.

But firefighting everything is totally wrong.

Suggesting Sheila committed the massacre is particulary distasteful.

No I don't think it is to be honest, Jeremy Bamber potentially has lost 38 years of his life due to a MOJ

[Adam]

You accept she was mobile now at least

Thank you

Always said she could walk. But nothing else without help.

[ILB]

Always said she could walk. But nothing else without help.

I disagree.

It's a forum

[Adam]

No I don't think it is to be honest, Jeremy Bamber potentially has lost 38 years of his life due to a MOJ

You are entitled to say Bamber is guilty but there was an MOJ. Then pursue that.

But saying Sheila could overpower Nevill and June is a certain 'no no'.

[ILB]

You are entitled to say Bamber is guilty but there was an MOJ. Then pursue that.

£10 a troll post is a good rate tbf

[Rob_]

Always said she could walk. But nothing else without help.

You seem to be resorting to desperate measures Adam, no direct evidence, little circumstantial evidence and so you have to resort to this rubbish.

If Sheila was this bad CC would not have allowed her near the boys.

[ILB]

You are entitled to say Bamber is guilty but there was an MOJ. Then pursue that.

Read that back to yourself slowly

[Adam]

You seem to be resorting to desperate measures Adam, no direct evidence, little circumstantial evidence and so you have to resort to this rubbish.

If Sheila was this bad CC would not have allowed her near the boys.

He didn't. CC had them 95% of the time.

The trip to WHF June & Nevill controlled Sheila.

[ILB]

He didn't. CC had them 95% of the time.

The trip to WHF June & Nevill controlled Sheila.

[Adam]

No balance - RB.

No muscle co ordination - RB.

No strength - RB.

No hand to eye co ordination -AE/RB.

Very docile PB, Bamber, AE.

Unable to get off sofas without help - CAL.

Twins with CC 95% of the time - CC

Recovering anorexic - Leo McKinsey.

June doing Sheila's shopping - RB.

Involuntary movements ' RB/Freddie.

Unable to do a job - Fact.

Long stays inside hospitals - Fact.

On Haloperidal - COA.

Unable to open a tin of beans - AE.

Looking very small in the crime scene photos - Crime scene photos.

No experience with rifle - Family.

Holding a rifle used for shooting rabbits - Fact.

Lifeless a few hours beforehand - Bamber, PB.

Unable to hold a glass one handed - RB/Freddie.

Up against a fully fit male - twice as strong - Fact.

Up against a fully fit stronger female - Fact.

Very docile - CC, Bamber, PB, June.

Non responsive to aledged fostering conversation - Bamber.

Was non responsive in phone conversation prior to bed - PB.

Nevill not having the severe physical and mental problems Sheila had - Fact.

June not having the severe physical or mental problems Sheila had - Fact.

Sheila having no footweare advantages over Nevill and June - Fact. 

Twins complaining Sheila was non responsive to them - CC

What the heck more can be supplied?

If ILB wants to support a murderer, that is up to him. But it must be on a specific issue/s to support a MOJ.

Sheila was a mouse to the slaughter.

[ILB]

What the heck more can be supplied?

If ILB wants to support a murderer, that is up to him. But it must be on a specific issue/s to support a MOJ.

Sheila was a mouse to the slaughter.

Perhaps if you say the same thing just one more time it might make an impact of your opinions

[Adam]

ILB is disputing for no reason.

A fully fit or 15% Sheila = same result - instantly disarmed by a fully fit Nevill or June. Or both.

[Rob_]

ILB is disputing for no reason.

A fully fit or 15% Sheila = same result - instantly disarmed by a fully fit Nevill or June. Or both.

Why are you bringing June into the equation Adam? She was of a similar build to Sheila and had been shot multiple times before she got close to Sheila.

You must so some research into how violent a episode can be, who called Nevil for help when Sheila flew into a rage? Why did he not pick up a 15% Sheila put her on the sofa and make her a cuppa?

[Jane]

But could help prepare food,

Which I believe your hands come in great help when doing so

".....could help prepare food"? One such "helped" prepare food for my party. She managed to hack a few tomatoes -they were supposed to be sliced- before, by mutual consent, leaving it to those who could!

[Jane]

Yet was a model, embarked on a modelling assignment to Japan,  (solo travel) had a social life, went on a few dates with men, was a regular on the London club scene,

Stop making Shelia out to be zombie from people whose recollections are detrimental to Bamber due to personal dislike and monetary reasons, and furthermore are tainted by the wisdom of the event

I think that should read "Had once tried her hand at modelling". Her parents paid for her to do a course in which a photo shoot/assignment was included. Had she had what it takes to be as model, more work would have followed. It appears such was not the case. In fact, if we look more deeply into Sheila's accomplishments, there were very few, if any, save for the major one when she produced the twins, albeit, not without an enormous amount of input from the medical profession.

You and Adam have polarized views of who and what Sheila was. Neither of you are entirely wrong, but nor are either of you entirely right.