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Offline Adam

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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #165 on: September 22, 2023, 08:44:PM »
Sheila got hold of a rifle and shot them Adam,she had no intention of boxing or wrestling them to death.

Impossible for Sheila to load the rifle. She needed two hands to hold a glass.

Nevill, June or both would have instantly negated her.
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #166 on: September 22, 2023, 09:07:PM »
Impossible for Sheila to load the rifle. She needed two hands to hold a glass.

Nevill, June or both would have instantly negated her.
The magazine was already loaded Adam,and once Nevill and June were initially wounded they were lambs to the slaughter to reverse a well used guilter phrase.


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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #167 on: September 22, 2023, 09:10:PM »
Thin arms, thin legs, small, tiny torso. Looking about 14.

That is ridiculous
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #168 on: September 22, 2023, 09:18:PM »
The magazine was already loaded Adam,and once Nevill and June were initially wounded they were lambs to the slaughter to reverse a well used guilter phrase.
How did Nevill manage to get downstairs if he was a lamb to the slaughter?

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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #169 on: September 22, 2023, 09:19:PM »
The magazine was already loaded Adam,and once Nevill and June were initially wounded they were lambs to the slaughter to reverse a well used guilter phrase.

Nevill or June would have instantly reclaimed the rifle. Not rang Bamber's AM at 3.00am.

Sheila had no co ordination, balance, strength, alertness & sufferred from involuntary movements.
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #170 on: September 22, 2023, 09:30:PM »
Nevill or June would have instantly reclaimed the rifle. Not rang Bamber's AM at 3.00am.

Sheila had no co ordination, balance, strength, alertness & sufferred from involuntary movements.

Disagree
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #171 on: September 22, 2023, 09:32:PM »
The magazine was already loaded Adam,and once Nevill and June were initially wounded they were lambs to the slaughter to reverse a well used guilter phrase.


But we don't know that it was loaded. What we know is that JB said it was loaded. Which is entirely different.

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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #172 on: September 22, 2023, 09:44:PM »
I have always said that from a gulity perspective Bamber said it was loaded because he knew Shelia couldnt load the rifle. And he needed to be plausible that it was left out ready for her to use.

However this doesn't mean she didn't no how to load it
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #173 on: September 22, 2023, 10:05:PM »
Bamber's WS said Sheila lost a lot weight due to her illnesses.

He also says Sheila was unable to hold conversations.
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #174 on: September 22, 2023, 10:09:PM »
I have always said that from a gulity perspective Bamber said it was loaded because he knew Shelia couldnt load the rifle. And he needed to be plausible that it was left out ready for her to use.

However this doesn't mean she didn't no how to load it
Apparently the murder weapon was stiff and nigh on impossible to load fully. She would surely have chipped some nail varnish had she engaged in that activity.

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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #175 on: September 22, 2023, 10:12:PM »
Bamber's WS said Sheila lost a lot weight due to her illnesses.

He also says Sheila was unable to hold conversations.

Jeremy and Shelia were not close.

He himself admits Shelias problems flummoxed him.
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #176 on: September 22, 2023, 10:15:PM »
How did Nevill manage to get downstairs if he was a lamb to the slaughter?
He was never actually fully upstairs after the killing started Steve.

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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #177 on: September 22, 2023, 10:19:PM »
Bamber says Sheila was vacant and confused at CC's party.

CC said Sheila did not speak on the way to WHF.

She had spent 2 months in hospital that year.

Sheila was totally gone. Sadly.
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #178 on: September 22, 2023, 10:23:PM »
Answer to my thread question, CC said Sheila would always have her illness.
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Re: Was Sheila's illness curable?
« Reply #179 on: September 22, 2023, 10:26:PM »
Nevill or June would have instantly reclaimed the rifle. Not rang Bamber's AM at 3.00am.

Sheila had no co ordination, balance, strength, alertness & sufferred from involuntary movements.
Nevill was taken by surprise and initially bashed over the head and knocked out beside the Aga when Sheila kicked off,and as you know June was shot in bed before she could reclaim the rifle or anything else,once she did get up and grapple with Sheila she was too badly wounded to overpower her,not that June stood much chance anyway against a psychotic Sheila.

Nevill called Bamber at 3.10 once he came to lying against the Aga.