Was Sheila's illness curable?

[Zoso]

Sheila was long past the modeling stage, when she was considerably thinner than she appears in the crime scene photos. There is plenty of meat on her in those pictures. Her face might even be described as a little bit pudgy. The photo of Mabel and Sheila shows that she had recovered from her brief modeling career and had fully regained her physical fitness.

Mabel was bedridden for sometime. This lady actually looks more like Nevill Bamber - how do we know it's not his mother (Beatrice)? That being the case, the picture would be before December 1981.

[snow66!]

Mabel was bedridden for sometime. This lady actually looks more like Nevill Bamber - how do we know it's not his mother (Beatrice)? That being the case, the picture would be before December 1981.

So which years was Sheila suffering from anorexia Zoso?

[ILB]

Mabel was bedridden for sometime. This lady actually looks more like Nevill Bamber - how do we know it's not his mother (Beatrice)? That being the case, the picture would be before December 1981.

It is from 1985.

[ILB]

Mabel was bedridden for sometime. This lady actually looks more like Nevill Bamber - how do we know it's not his mother (Beatrice)? That being the case, the picture would be before December 1981.

It is Mabel Speakman

[ILB]

In any event.

Shelia was not skeletal

Shelia was no underweight at the time ( from the autopsy )

Shelia could walk unaided

Len Foakes saw her skipping down the lane that day.

[Adam]

Supporters justification that Sheila could overpower 2 fully fit stronger adults -

She was not wheelchair bound.

[Adam]

No balance - RB.

No muscle co ordination - RB.

No strength - RB.

No hand to eye co ordination -AE/RB.

Very docile PB, Bamber, AE.

Unable to get off sofas without help - CAL.

Twins with CC 95% of the time - CC

Recovering anorexic - Leo McKinsey.

June doing Sheila's shopping - RB.

Involuntary movements ' RB/Freddie.

Unable to do a job - Fact.

Long stays inside hospitals - Fact.

On Haloperidal - COA.

Unable to open a tin of beans - AE.

Looking very small in the crime scene photos - Crime scene photos.

No experience with rifle - Family.

Holding a rifle used for shooting rabbits - Fact.

Lifeless a few hours beforehand - Bamber, PB.

Unable to hold a glass one handed - RB/Freddie.

Up against a fully fit male - twice as strong - Fact.

Up against a fully fit stronger female - Fact.

Very docile - CC, Bamber, PB, June.

Non responsive to aledged fostering conversation - Bamber.

Was non responsive in phone conversation prior to bed - PB.

Nevill not having the severe physical and mental problems Sheila had - Fact.

June not having the severe physical or mental problems Sheila had - Fact.

Sheila having no footweare advantages over Nevill and June - Fact. 

Twins complaining Sheila was non responsive to them - CC

[Roch]

Supporters justification that Sheila could overpower 2 fully fit stronger adults -

She was not wheelchair bound.

It was Sheila who was on a mission. Not Nevill and June. They were caught on the backfoot.

I can't imagine Nevill being motivated to batter his own beloved daughter. Sheila on the other hand was operating as if possessed. Different kettle of fish.

[Steve_uk]

It was Sheila who was on a mission. Not Nevill and June. They were caught on the backfoot.

I can't imagine Nevill being motivated to batter his own beloved daughter. Sheila on the other hand was operating as if possessed. Different kettle of fish.

I don't think Sheila was ever on a mission. She drifted, latched onto things, couldn't hold down a job. Whether these were innate symptoms or exacerbated by schizophrenia is hard to say.

Sheila hearing voices, thinking she was Joan of Arc or the Virgin Mary, a Madonna complex, laughing inappropriately, not speaking on the way down to White House Farm. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xphnHCRgvOg?feature=share

[ILB]

These things are not relevant -

No balance.

No muscle co ordination.

No strength.

No hand to eye co ordination.

Very docile.

Unable to get off sofas without help.

Recovering anorexic.

June doing Sheila's shopping.

Involuntary movements.

Unable to do a job.

Long stays inside hospitals.

On Haloperidal.

No interaction with people.

Looking very small in the crime scene photos.

No experience with rifle.

Lifeless a few hours beforehand.

Unable to hold a glass one handed. 

Up against a fully fit male - twice as strong.

Up against a fully fit stronger female.

Because none of it is true

You are making Shelia our to be a zombie and almost wheelchair bound

That doesn't fit the day in event narrative.

[Steve_uk]

Because none of it is true

You are making Shelia our to be a zombie and almost wheelchair bound

That doesn't fit the day in event narrative.

Actually that was Pamela's phrase in her witness statement, following her brief intercourse with Sheila on the telephone.

[Adam]

These things are not relevant -

No balance.

No muscle co ordination.

No strength.

No hand to eye co ordination.

Very docile.

Unable to get off sofas without help.

Recovering anorexic.

June doing Sheila's shopping.

Involuntary movements.

Unable to do a job.

Long stays inside hospitals.

On Haloperidal.

No interaction with people.

Looking very small in the crime scene photos.

No experience with rifle.

Lifeless a few hours beforehand.

Unable to hold a glass one handed. 

Up against a fully fit male - twice as strong.

Up against a fully fit stronger female.

Was non responsive to aledged fostering conversations.

Was non responsive in phone conversation prior to bed.

Have just added a couple of things. Will add as and when.

[Adam]

A fully functional woman could not have overpowered a fully fit Nevill and June.

Sheila was on 15%.

[Zoso]

It is from 1985.

How do you know?

[Zoso]

It is Mabel Speakman

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