CCRC have proof of additional wounds

[Roch]

Is that the royal 'we'?

If you like 🤴

[Bubo bubo]

Dear me! Did a more unlucky man ever exist? His biological parents gave him away, then went on to have two more children. He seems not to have been exactly what his adoptive parents wanted in a son. His relatives called him  a "cuckoo in the nest". His school 'friends' called him "Bastard". His sister had it handed to her on a plate whilst he believed he had to work his a**e off to keep her in 'luxury'. He had no true friends. But for the, alleged, actions -or, perhaps, non actions?- of  a civilian police worker, he might have been a free man, BUT..............apparently the police didn't like him and conspired, with the help of his relatives who didn't like him, and his ex girlfriend who had very good reason not to like him, to have him convicted. Still, he had hopes of being freed, and MAY have been...........had it not been for the pathologist, who, for reasons we know not, and perhaps persuaded by police? believed getting him convicted was worth putting his, hitherto, excellent reputation on the line for. His defence, being his last defence!, could have come to his aid, but it seems that they didn't like him either. The Judge might have swayed things, but it seems he called it as he saw it.

I seem to remember that there was an issue regarding his biological father. Husband was in the army in Scotland. Wife got pregnant. To save marriage baby sent for adoption.

[Roch]

I seem to remember that there was an issue regarding his biological father. Husband was in the army in Scotland. Wife got pregnant. To save marriage baby sent for adoption.

Aah, I think I just twigged what you may be hinting at.  From what I recall, that is not the official account of events, which I think related to couple having been unmarried at the time?

[Bubo bubo]

Aah, I think I just twigged what you may be hinting at.  From what I recall, that is not the official account of events, which I think related to couple having been unmarried at the time?

Not sure could be either. Just rembered there was a reason for adoption
 Jane made it sound like it was JB's fault.

[Jane]

Not sure could be either. Just rembered there was a reason for adoption
 Jane made it sound like it was JB's fault.

Adopted children, if their adopting parents are particularly religious, are often made to feel 'respondent's for their births, outside of marriage.

Regarding the marital status of JB 's biological parents, his mother, single at the time and working at Buckingham Palace, met his father, who was also working there, but married. They began a relationship. JB was the result. Assuming it wasn't possible for her to keep him, he was placed for adoption. Once his father obtained a divorce, he and JB's mother married and had two more children. I won't speculate on their feelings about their one time baby.

[Steve_uk]

Adopted children, if their adopting parents are particularly religious, are often made to feel 'respondent's for their births, outside of marriage.

Regarding the marital status of JB 's biological parents, his mother, single at the time and working at Buckingham Palace, met his father, who was also working there, but married. They began a relationship. JB was the result. Assuming it wasn't possible for her to keep him, he was placed for adoption. Once his father obtained a divorce, he and JB's mother married and had two more children. I won't speculate on their feelings about their one time baby.

Leslie Marsham described the handover as "traumatic."

[Roch]

Adopted children, if their adopting parents are particularly religious, are often made to feel 'respondent's for their births, outside of marriage.

Regarding the marital status of JB 's biological parents, his mother, single at the time and working at Buckingham Palace, met his father, who was also working there, but married. They began a relationship. JB was the result. Assuming it wasn't possible for her to keep him, he was placed for adoption. Once his father obtained a divorce, he and JB's mother married and had two more children. I won't speculate on their feelings about their one time baby.

But you did seem to mock JB for it happening, as if it was a.part of 'the great conspiracy against him'.

[Jane]

But you did seem to mock JB for it happening, as if it was a.part of 'the great conspiracy against him'.

Roch. Why on earth would you imagine I'd mock JB for being adopted?  It was entirely beyond his control.

[Roch]

Roch. Why on earth would you imagine I'd mock JB for being adopted?  It was entirely beyond his control.

My mistake Jane.  I misinterpreted your post. 

[Steve_uk]

A statistic the Bamberettes may be interested in. http://www.crimemagazine.com/adoption-forensics-connection-between-adoption-and-murder

[Roch]

A statistic the Bamberettes may be interested in. http://www.crimemagazine.com/adoption-forensics-connection-between-adoption-and-murder

A statistic the ostriches may be interested in.

What are the odds of three murder victims at the same crime scene, each having hand-to-hand contact fight-and-defence wounds, while the assailant remained completely unmarked.  Try putting that in a probability calculator.

[ILB]

Leslie Marsham described the handover as "traumatic."

I can tell from a mile off Jeremy is Lesley Marshams son. A strong resemblance in looks I think.especially when Jeremy was younger

Don't see much resembalance with his mother

[ILB]

I do find it from an outside view and unrelating to events that Jeremy's natural parents gave him up and went on to marry and have two other biological childre, would be very harsh and traumatic for Jeremy. For a layperson and young person it's the definition of feeling unwanted.

I believe this stings Jeremy to this day. Although he has always said" my mum and dad were June and Nevill and that's that "

[Zoso]

I do find it from an outside view and unrelating to events that Jeremy's natural parents gave him up and went on to marry and have two other biological childre, would be very harsh and traumatic for Jeremy. For a layperson and young person it's the definition of feeling unwanted.

I believe this stings Jeremy to this day. Although he has always said" my mum and dad were June and Nevill and that's that "

Completely agree, but then to be sent off to boarding school around the same time he found out about the adoption - brutal!

[Jane]

I do find it from an outside view and unrelating to events that Jeremy's natural parents gave him up and went on to marry and have two other biological childre, would be very harsh and traumatic for Jeremy. For a layperson and young person it's the definition of feeling unwanted.

I believe this stings Jeremy to this day. Although he has always said" my mum and dad were June and Nevill and that's that "

Completely agree, but then to be sent off to boarding school around the same time he found out about the adoption - brutal!

The lasting damage this can cause should never be underestimated. It's painful enough for a child to know it was given away,  but to subsequently be made to feel a misfit because it doesn't live up to its new parent's expectations,  that pain can be inestimable. Most manage to find coping strategies to deal with it. It doesn't eradicate it.
I don't believe his claim that  "June and Nevill were my Mum and Dad and that's that" signifies that everything was fine and dandy.