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Re: "No Comment" Jeremy Bamber & Kate McCann
« Reply #30 on: August 20, 2023, 11:25:AM »
Discuss is the wrong word. 'Comments are turnec off'.
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Re: "No Comment" Jeremy Bamber & Kate McCann
« Reply #31 on: August 20, 2023, 11:37:AM »
They should have stayed on this point and drove a hard bargain on it. Not change subject. Although he did answer
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Re: "No Comment" Jeremy Bamber & Kate McCann
« Reply #32 on: August 20, 2023, 01:24:PM »
I think Snow with any interview you do get Good Cop Bad Cop and it's been like this for a long while, Obviously the Bad cop is going to look the worst out of it and the one who has a Grudge.  To be fair to Stan, i didn't think he was too Bad at it.  I Don't think they put him under a lot of pressure to be honest it doesn't matter if you think him innocent or Guilty this was a Five person Murder investigation not a Handbag theft there was always going to be difficult Questions.

I covered this part a little Snow

He even got that desperate that he lied to JB about both shots to Sheila being fatal.and that it was a FACT that she had been murdered..............................................Now, if you was told this by a Detective and you was innocent, how would an innocent Person Answer this Question, knowing the fact  the first bullett would have killed Sheila and Sheila and your Mum Dad And Twins was murdered by someone else?  Would you Counter this with "no i don't believe that"  offer alteratives or would you be in a complete Shock and Break down with such News?


 I don't think they pushed him enough on it and i think it was down to the fact it wasn't stone wall proveable, but JB wasn't to know this, unless he was certain she was still alive after the first shot, he even includes Automatic Gun, nerves and the Dog as a Counter?

He has to still insist it could be  Sheila, "WHY"  Because he had set the scene in the first place by saying his Father had rang to say "Sheila" had got the Gun?  He does try to counter this as well by saying it could have been the words "SHE" i heard.
 
I just dont really see much wrong with the way JB conducted himself at all during the interviews HB.

It would have been quite obvious to JB from the start that Stan was going to use every trick in the book to get him to incriminate himself.Just how was JB supposed to react when he was told Sheila had been murdered,maybe he thought a hitman had been involved after all.How could he know what actually happened if he was innocent? And if so,only the police had investigated the crime scene,so he had to simply go by what they told him.

Most of the no comments started when he was asked if he still loved Julie,now just how could he answer that? Julie was the reason he was sitting there in the interview room for heavens sake!

I believe another no comment was made when asked if Sheila was a crack shot with a rifle which was simply a silly question to be avoided as ILB pointed out.

To put it another way,I dont personally see clues to Bambers guilt in the interviews.As for the melodic answers and twanging threads of his jumper,remember he had been interviewed intensively for three days.Surely any such behaviour can be put down to boredom and weariness through answering the same repetative questions over and over again?

We have to look at the effect of the whole three days of interviews and not just pick out bits that make JB look like a 'psychopath' due to lapses of interest,attention or odd behaviour.Remember,Stan lost it from time to time through frustration at the lack of any progress with Bamber.

One other point,at one stage Stan told JB that his family was shot twenty times all on target,hinting that Sheila was incapable of this,however the reaction they got was one of only revulsion from JB at the thought of the brutal way his family had died,he even turned white,could a psychopath fake this response?

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Re: "No Comment" Jeremy Bamber & Kate McCann
« Reply #33 on: August 20, 2023, 01:41:PM »
I just dont really see much wrong with the way JB conducted himself at all during the interviews HB.

It would have been quite obvious to JB from the start that Stan was going to use every trick in the book to get him to incriminate himself.Just how was JB supposed to react when he was told Sheila had been murdered,maybe he thought a hitman had been involved after all.How could he know what actually happened if he was innocent? And if so,only the police had investigated the crime scene,so he had to simply go by what they told him.

Most of the no comments started when he was asked if he still loved Julie,now just how could he answer that? Julie was the reason he was sitting there in the interview room for heavens sake!

I believe another no comment was made when asked if Sheila was a crack shot with a rifle which was simply a silly question to be avoided as ILB pointed out.

To put it another way,I dont personally see clues to Bambers guilt in the interviews.As for the melodic answers and twanging threads of his jumper,remember he had been interviewed intensively for three days.Surely any such behaviour can be put down to boredom and weariness through answering the same repetative questions over and over again?

We have to look at the effect of the whole three days of interviews and not just pick out bits that make JB look like a 'psychopath' due to lapses of interest,attention or odd behaviour.Remember,Stan lost it from time to time through frustration at the lack of any progress with Bamber.

One other point,at one stage Stan told JB that his family was shot twenty times all on target,hinting that Sheila was incapable of this,however the reaction they got was one of only revulsion from JB at the thought of the brutal way his family had died,he even turned white,could a psychopath fake this response?
Thanks Snow you make some valid points, i think they repeated the Question about his love of Julie for a reason, if they got Jeremy to admit he still loved her and thought a lot about her so to speak, it kinda undermines the fact the defence could use the Woman Scorned/jilted against Julie and the reason she had come forward?   A lot of Questions about Julie was used and it was used for that purpose because she wasn't a reliable Crown Witness?  Does that make sense?

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Re: "No Comment" Jeremy Bamber & Kate McCann
« Reply #34 on: August 20, 2023, 01:56:PM »
Thanks Snow you make some valid points, i think they repeated the Question about his love of Julie for a reason, if they got Jeremy to admit he still loved her and thought a lot about her so to speak, it kinda undermines the fact the defence could use the Woman Scorned/jilted against Julie and the reason she had come forward?   A lot of Questions about Julie was used and it was used for that purpose because she wasn't a reliable Crown Witness?  Does that make sense?
Ah yes,of course,believe it or not I never twigged to the point of repeatedly askking if he still loved Julie.Can see that now,silly me,slow snow.I would have probably made a mess of the interviews.
Still,JB still ended up convicted of the murders!

Anyway,yes,you make sense HB.

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Re: "No Comment" Jeremy Bamber & Kate McCann
« Reply #35 on: August 20, 2023, 01:57:PM »
I just dont really see much wrong with the way JB conducted himself at all during the interviews HB.

It would have been quite obvious to JB from the start that Stan was going to use every trick in the book to get him to incriminate himself.Just how was JB supposed to react when he was told Sheila had been murdered,maybe he thought a hitman had been involved after all.How could he know what actually happened if he was innocent? And if so,only the police had investigated the crime scene,so he had to simply go by what they told him.

Most of the no comments started when he was asked if he still loved Julie,now just how could he answer that? Julie was the reason he was sitting there in the interview room for heavens sake!

I believe another no comment was made when asked if Sheila was a crack shot with a rifle which was simply a silly question to be avoided as ILB pointed out.

To put it another way,I dont personally see clues to Bambers guilt in the interviews.As for the melodic answers and twanging threads of his jumper,remember he had been interviewed intensively for three days.Surely any such behaviour can be put down to boredom and weariness through answering the same repetative questions over and over again?

We have to look at the effect of the whole three days of interviews and not just pick out bits that make JB look like a 'psychopath' due to lapses of interest,attention or odd behaviour.Remember,Stan lost it from time to time through frustration at the lack of any progress with Bamber.

One other point,at one stage Stan told JB that his family was shot twenty times all on target,hinting that Sheila was incapable of this,however the reaction they got was one of only revulsion from JB at the thought of the brutal way his family had died,he even turned white,could a psychopath fake this response?
You also have to understand with Interviews Snow, even though it might seem a Futile Question to us, there is a reason that Question is put to him, they know he's not going to answer yes,  it's also aimed at the Jury,  think about it, your on the Jury you have listened to the case put forward by the Defence and The Crown.  You cannot remember everything that was said, so you read the statements again, the questions you had never thought of in your head are then put to you in the statement, you might think, "ah yes Sheila had never used the gun before she was hardly a crack shot" 

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Re: "No Comment" Jeremy Bamber & Kate McCann
« Reply #36 on: August 20, 2023, 02:03:PM »
Ah yes,of course,believe it or not I never twigged to the point of repeatedly askking if he still loved Julie.Can see that now,silly me,slow snow.I would have probably made a mess of the interviews.
Still,JB still ended up convicted of the murders!

Anyway,yes,you make sense HB.
Your doing great and to be honest, it's down to this forum and down to MT and NGB and posters on here, that has given me a better thought process, so my only advice to you Snow, stick with it.

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Re: "No Comment" Jeremy Bamber & Kate McCann
« Reply #37 on: August 20, 2023, 02:05:PM »
It is very obvious Bamber's police interviews are very incriminating.

Supporters will say they are not.

The CT will not mention it.
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Re: "No Comment" Jeremy Bamber & Kate McCann
« Reply #38 on: August 20, 2023, 02:07:PM »
Bamber refused to discuss his 10pm and 3.00am calls to Julie.

Ditto the CT over the last 38 years.
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Re: "No Comment" Jeremy Bamber & Kate McCann
« Reply #39 on: August 20, 2023, 02:16:PM »
Bamber refused to discuss his 10pm and 3.00am calls to Julie.

Ditto the CT over the last 38 years.
Did he say what he talked about with Sheila in the 4.00pm afternoon chat he had with her on the Eve of the murders?

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Re: "No Comment" Jeremy Bamber & Kate McCann
« Reply #40 on: August 20, 2023, 02:18:PM »
Did he say what he talked about with Sheila in the 4.00pm afternoon chat he had with her on the Eve of the murders?

'No comment'.
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Re: "No Comment" Jeremy Bamber & Kate McCann
« Reply #41 on: August 20, 2023, 02:21:PM »
Did he say what he talked about with Sheila in the 4.00pm afternoon chat he had with her on the Eve of the murders?

It would be interesting to know what was said. It would also be interesting to know what was said when JB took Sheila home from Colin's party. I don't think we know anything of either.

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Re: "No Comment" Jeremy Bamber & Kate McCann
« Reply #42 on: August 20, 2023, 02:49:PM »
'No comment'.
He purposely adds something to his statements after being asked a question on the 7th at his Cottage by a policeman, he hadn't thought of it,  so he goes and adds it on the 8th of Aug.  He not only adds it, he adds to it,  to further the suspicion against Sheila?

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Re: "No Comment" Jeremy Bamber & Kate McCann
« Reply #43 on: August 20, 2023, 03:25:PM »
It is very obvious Bamber's police interviews are very incriminating.

Supporters will say they are not.

The CT will not mention it.
Oh,that bad were they Adam? Isn't that obvious to me I'm afraid.

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Re: "No Comment" Jeremy Bamber & Kate McCann
« Reply #44 on: August 20, 2023, 03:33:PM »
Oh,that bad were they Adam? Isn't that obvious to me I'm afraid.

Why over 40 'no comments'?
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