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Offline mike tesko

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Re: Malcolm Bonnett statement (date unknown)
« Reply #195 on: February 26, 2017, 08:36:AM »
No wonder PC West didn't know what his evidence was supposed to be, when somebody else had created the composite statement in his name!
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Re: Malcolm Bonnett statement (date unknown)
« Reply #196 on: February 26, 2017, 08:45:AM »
Something else I noticed, one composite statement of his bears reference to it being 'statement No. S60', another 'Statement No. S60A', and another 'S60B'...

Exactly how many different versions of PC Wests composite statements are actually on file, ready to be printed off?
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Re: Malcolm Bonnett statement (date unknown)
« Reply #197 on: February 26, 2017, 09:01:AM »
Here is a huge clue, as to where all the evidence is contained that is missing:-

The version which includes more facts about Neville Bambers 3.26am call may even be kept in this location, for 'research purposes'

So, at least we know where all the A21 Original Bamber enquiry and the A49 Bamber Enquiry documents are all stored electronically!!!

No wonder they didn't want Jeremy Bamber paying for someone to look into them, they are stored electronically on a database!

What chance did Bambers original solicitor ever have of getting to see all the documents stored on this database pre-trial?
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Re: Malcolm Bonnett statement (date unknown)
« Reply #198 on: February 26, 2017, 09:37:AM »
Cops told Bamber that they didn't have time to look through hundreds of thousands of documents in their possession, and that it would cost too much money! Despite the fact Bamber offered to pay for their time and effort, when all along all the cops had to do was press a button or two on a key pad, and print it all off!

How dishonest was that?
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Re: Malcolm Bonnett statement (date unknown)
« Reply #199 on: February 26, 2017, 12:37:PM »
Why? For obvious reasons - even now with an explanation given, people are still trying to make something of it. Had they not explained it Bamber would have made much of it at trial. The explanation was enough for his defense at the time or they would have made more of it.

That doesn't really deal with my points - which is fine because I don't always deal with yours tbf.

Regarding this reasoning we see used on here, whereby deficiencies in Bamber's team are used to argue that 'this or that' aspect is irrelevant.  Whether adequate or not, Bamber's defence team were discharging their professional duties after the fact.  They played no part in the incident and their actions or lack of them have no bearing on what actually took place at White House Farm.

I reiterate that there cannot be a 'suicide' at WHF before 7.45, unless police at the scene have located the body of Sheila Caffell downstairs.  We keep hearing how Jeremy Bamber 'set the scene'.  Whether he set the scene or accurately reported the information he was privy to - in either case - the outcome is the same.  The police surround the farmhouse and deal with the situation as one of a siege involving a specific person, fitting a specific description of sex, age and appearance, who is believed to be armed and a danger to the other inhabitants.  Furthermore, none of the other inhabitants (who are all potential hostages or victims) can be labelled as potential suicide victims by police. 

Even if Nevill's corpse was sighted through the window and mistakenly designated as female - on what grounds does that mistaken corpse fit the description of Sheila?  Has Jeremy informed police that Sheila is 6'4, wears pyjamas and has grey hair?

Furthermore, if the error in recording occurred as it is being claimed - why do the logs not read 'found upon entry' 'one dead female and one dead male'?

It's the wrong way round.  The explanation for the error has been crudely adapted and therefore doesn't match the actual contemporaneous recording.
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Re: Malcolm Bonnett statement (date unknown)
« Reply #200 on: February 26, 2017, 01:50:PM »
That doesn't really deal with my points - which is fine because I don't always deal with yours tbf.

Regarding this reasoning we see used on here, whereby deficiencies in Bamber's team are used to argue that 'this or that' aspect is irrelevant.  Whether adequate or not, Bamber's defence team were discharging their professional duties after the fact.  They played no part in the incident and their actions or lack of them have no bearing on what actually took place at White House Farm.

I reiterate that there cannot be a 'suicide' at WHF before 7.45, unless police at the scene have located the body of Sheila Caffell downstairs.  We keep hearing how Jeremy Bamber 'set the scene'.  Whether he set the scene or accurately reported the information he was privy to - in either case - the outcome is the same.  The police surround the farmhouse and deal with the situation as one of a siege involving a specific person, fitting a specific description of sex, age and appearance, who is believed to be armed and a danger to the other inhabitants.  Furthermore, none of the other inhabitants (who are all potential hostages or victims) can be labelled as potential suicide victims by police. 

Even if Nevill's corpse was sighted through the window and mistakenly designated as female - on what grounds does that mistaken corpse fit the description of Sheila?  Has Jeremy informed police that Sheila is 6'4, wears pyjamas and has grey hair?

Furthermore, if the error in recording occurred as it is being claimed - why do the logs not read 'found upon entry' 'one dead female and one dead male'?

It's the wrong way round.  The explanation for the error has been crudely adapted and therefore doesn't match the actual contemporaneous recording.

I think this point has been done to death and wondering why someone wrote this or that instead of that or this is a road to nowhere. We will never know. You think it's suspicious, I don't, people get things wrong, it's a fact of life and I can't count the number of time someone at work has done something dumb and inexplicable.

I fully believe that Sheila Caffell was dead when the rid team entered, she was upstairs and had been there from the time that Jeremy shot her. Even when I thought he was innocent, I had a hard time with her running about the house after the raid team entered.
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Re: Malcolm Bonnett statement (date unknown)
« Reply #201 on: February 26, 2017, 02:40:PM »
I think this point has been done to death and wondering why someone wrote this or that instead of that or this is a road to nowhere. We will never know. You think it's suspicious, I don't, people get things wrong, it's a fact of life and I can't count the number of time someone at work has done something dumb and inexplicable.

I fully believe that Sheila Caffell was dead when the rid team entered, she was upstairs and had been there from the time that Jeremy shot her. Even when I thought he was innocent, I had a hard time with her running about the house after the raid team entered.

How did the only rifle found upstairs which was at the first floor box room window, at around 7.15am, find its way later on (after 8.10am) onto the body of Sheila Caffell, and why?
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Re: Malcolm Bonnett statement (date unknown)
« Reply #202 on: February 26, 2017, 02:44:PM »
How did the only rifle found upstairs which was at the first floor box room window, at around 7.15am, find its way later on (after 8.10am) onto the body of Sheila Caffell, and why?

Only three bodies upstairs by 8.10am, a fourth by the time the police surgeon pronounced Sheila dead at 8.44am on the far side of the bed!
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Re: Malcolm Bonnett statement (date unknown)
« Reply #203 on: February 26, 2017, 02:45:PM »
Only three bodies upstairs by 8.10am, a fourth by the time the police surgeon pronounced Sheila dead at 8.44am on the far side of the bed!

Rifle at first floor window at 7.15am, could not have been with Sheila's body in the main bedroom until sometime after 8.10am, when her body arrived upstairs!
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