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Re: Malcolm Bonnett statement (date unknown)
« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2014, 11:38:PM »
From Pc West's cross-examination: "Q So the first thing you do is ring H.Q. Information Room.  A. That is correct, yes."

Pc West went on to say that he was told that Witham Police Station covered Tolleshunt D'Arcy and he contacted them, then: "Q Did you tell them what you had been told? A. Yes, I spoke to an officer on the personal radio link between ourselves and Witham Police Station relayed the message that I had received from Mr. Bamber in order that they could respond to it."

It would seem that the above is what led the Appeal Court to state (incorrectly) "Using a radio link PC West contacted Malcolm Bonnet at the Chelmsford H/Q Information Room." So much for the Appeal Court's attention to detail.

Pc West implies that Witham Police Station arranged a response to JB's call. To whom did they relay the information and who at Witham did this? Bear in mind that car CA05 clearly travelled from a considerable distance away (as its arrival at WHF was logged by Bonnett as occurring at 04:23), and seems to have been based at Chelmsford. On the other hand, car CA07 (based at Witham), according to Mr Bonnett, was contacted directly by him, and sent by him to WHF. Mr Bonnett's 2001 statement doesn't mention referring Pc West to Witham.

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Re: Malcolm Bonnett statement (date unknown)
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2014, 12:44:AM »
The appeal court judges also wrote "Using a radio link PC West contacted Malcolm Bonnet at the Chelmsford H/Q Information Room." This is inconsistent with Bonnet's log and statement, both of which indicate that he was contacted by telephone.

Bonnet's statement clearly wasn't supplied to the defence before the trial. Had it been, the audio tapes mentioned would have been asked for.

The reaosn why the trial team did not pay any attention is because there is nothing at all to pay attention to.  The time on PC West's log being written as 3:36 but on Bonnet's as 3:26 is obviously nothing more than a typo.  Trying to pretend that Bonnet fielded a call from Nevill himself not West is a complete waste of time that the trial team would not have been bothered with just like the trial team would not bother wasting their time trying to pretend Sheila had been killed in the kitchen because of a log eroreously stating 2 bodies in the kitchen.

They had statements from the people involved disputing all the lies being bandied about it this regard and the people simply would have testified to put an end to any such worthless allegations.

The fantasy allegations made by Jeremy supporters is that bonnet fielded a call from Nevill but later added in the claim that the call came from cops and edited in that the quote was conveyed from jeremy.   So Jeremy supporters are not going by the log at all but rather asserting the log reflects a coverup.  In the meantime anyone calling the police would to reach the HQ information room, Bonnet was not fielding calls from the public. The trial team had no reason to waste it's time with fantasy rubbish.

Anyone who engages in such is merely demonstrating they are completely clueless or dishonest.  There is no vlaid claim that can be made one has to be a complete moron to make the claims being made or dishonest and making a knowingly false claim.
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Re: Malcolm Bonnett statement (date unknown)
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2014, 12:59:AM »
No,no typo. The police alleged that the clock in their station was 10 minutes out,hence the discrepancy,but Pc West testified at the trial that the clock was NOT out at all and was accurate.

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Re: Malcolm Bonnett statement (date unknown)
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2014, 02:44:AM »
No,no typo. The police alleged that the clock in their station was 10 minutes out,hence the discrepancy,but Pc West testified at the trial that the clock was NOT out at all and was accurate.

PC West says his clock was right and Bonnet's clock was wrong.  Bonnet insisted his clock was right.  The prosecution accepted Bonnet's clock as right and said West likely misread the clock or meaning to write a 2 her wrote a 3.  The same way sometimes people intenting to write one thing accidentally write another. 

There would be no way for Jeremy to have been able to call west at 3:36, to then call Bonnet and for CA7 to have been dispatched at 3:35.  So either Bonnet's clock was off for him to mess up both the time of the call from West and when the car was dispatched or West simply messed up and wrote 3:36 instead of 3:26.  Which is more likely?  West making the erorr is more likely which is why that is what the Appeal Court decided had occurred.

   
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Re: Malcolm Bonnett statement (date unknown)
« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2014, 11:16:PM »
There was also a statement by Bonnett date 13/09/1985, which was as shown below.

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Re: Malcolm Bonnett statement (date unknown)
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2014, 11:23:PM »
Thanks for that reader. Did you get this from the archives? If not I wonder if Hartley would pop it in for us.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Malcolm Bonnett statement (date unknown)
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2014, 11:31:PM »
So,the 03.26 time refers to when West phoned Bonnet.Jeremy had to have phoned West a lot earlier than 0.3.26 then? Now Im confused  ???

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Re: Malcolm Bonnett statement (date unknown)
« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2014, 12:11:AM »
So,the 03.26 time refers to when West phoned Bonnet.Jeremy had to have phoned West a lot earlier than 0.3.26 then? Now Im confused  ???

What is confusing?  Many of us have said for weeks (and in fact said it in the past as well) that Jeremy clearly phoned West several minutes prior to 3:26 because at 3:26 is when West phoned Bonnett.

How much earlier than 3:26 depends on how long it took West to understand everything Jeremy told him and to record what he wanted to record. He testified it took him a minute but most people believe it would have taken longer.

The trial defense was happy with this timeline because Jeremy claimed Nevill phoned him around 3:10, he tried to call Nevill back for a minute or 2 then went to look up the phone number of Witham Police station, dialed got no answer so then looked up the number of Chelmsford and dialed and got West.     Phoning West around 3:22-3:23 fits this timeline.  Calling West at 3:36 requires wasting far more time so is problemmatic.



 
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Re: Malcolm Bonnett statement (date unknown)
« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2014, 12:37:AM »
Yep. Well spotted. Not only is the statement date different but they were printed off one in 2004 and the other in 2005.  I wonder if these were used in the last submissions to the CCRC?  :-\

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Re: Malcolm Bonnett statement (date unknown)
« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2014, 12:43:AM »
I wonder what happened to the audio tape that recorded the call?  :)

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Re: Malcolm Bonnett statement (date unknown)
« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2014, 12:45:AM »
This is the topic linked to in the archives section! I added to one of my own posts earlier in the topic and added a new post, so there are now images of three Bonnett statements.
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Re: Malcolm Bonnett statement (date unknown)
« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2014, 01:17:AM »
I wonder what happened to the audio tape that recorded the call?  :)

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Re: Malcolm Bonnett statement (date unknown)
« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2014, 07:05:AM »
This is the topic linked to in the archives section! I added to one of my own posts earlier in the topic and added a new post, so there are now images of three Bonnett statements.

So it is.

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Re: Malcolm Bonnett statement (date unknown)
« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2014, 08:21:AM »
There was also a statement by Bonnett date 13/09/1985, which was as shown below.



I guess the above makes it clear how confusion started. Bonnet states, from the off, that he can't recall if Christian names were given, but the gist of the conversation was that Mr Bamber had received a call from Mr Bamber saying his daughter had go berserk and had one of his guns. From this, it becomes somewhat difficult to extricate the word "sister", which although is a given, it's NOT clearly stated.

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Re: Malcolm Bonnett statement (date unknown)
« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2014, 09:15:AM »
 I knew damn well there'd be confusion about 2 Mr Bambers'. Dozy man !