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« Reply #240 on: August 01, 2023, 09:07:AM »
Further to this part of the argument is that the blue socks were featured in the crime scene photos and whilst they might not have been discussed at trial the prosecution had to have evidence that they were found on the day, their exhibit number and who found them. As far as I am aware there are no references to another pair of blue socks.
The COLP enquiry looked more deeply at Birds finds and had other documents detailing DB1 to DB7 so for this reason he needed a statement that showed all the finds and it this statement dated the same as the first that he presented to the enquiry
What is more the COLP did not know about events in the time between the tragedy and the end of the first week and the removal and burning of items by JB and the police or AE's tidying up. It is also quite likely they did not have the crime scene picture of the blue socks. So they were in a situation like JB of evidence being withheld. But they would not have asked for them because that was not what they were investigating.

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« Reply #241 on: August 01, 2023, 10:32:AM »
You and I have a very different view on credibility. Nothing wrong with that - for you anything is possible, for me, it's not.

You would label me a conspiracy theorist and I would label you naive.

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« Reply #242 on: August 01, 2023, 11:15:AM »
You would label me a conspiracy theorist and I would label you naive.

And I would say you only think that because you're a CT  ;D

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« Reply #243 on: August 01, 2023, 11:18:AM »
What is more the COLP did not know about events in the time between the tragedy and the end of the first week and the removal and burning of items by JB and the police or AE's tidying up. It is also quite likely they did not have the crime scene picture of the blue socks. So they were in a situation like JB of evidence being withheld. But they would not have asked for them because that was not what they were investigating.

More dung from the 'HIPPO'.
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« Reply #244 on: August 01, 2023, 11:26:AM »
More dung from the 'HIPPO'.

I haven't got time to be removing posts from various posters, that contain personal insults. Can those doing so just refrain please. I've got better things to do.
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« Reply #245 on: August 01, 2023, 11:36:AM »
I haven't got time to be removing posts from various posters, that contain personal insults. Can those doing so just refrain please. I've got better things to do.

BuboBubo posted this yesterday -

Does not look plump or overweight in earlier pics. More dung from the  Hippo.

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He has been calling me this for over a year.

I only decided to call him this  today in response. I did PM NGB several months ago but got no response.

May I recommend you inform BuboBubo if he calls me it again he will get a temporary ban.

Otherwise please tell me what action you are taking. It is hardcore abuse.

Thank you.
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« Reply #246 on: August 01, 2023, 02:28:PM »
Hopefully Roch responds.

BuboBubo constantly calling other peoples posts 'crap' is also very offensive.

Posters are entitled to disagree there was a staging of the crime scene of such a magnitude & that the police shot June & Sheila.
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« Reply #247 on: August 01, 2023, 05:01:PM »
BuboBubo posted this yesterday -

Does not look plump or overweight in earlier pics. More dung from the  Hippo.

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He has been calling me this for over a year.

I only decided to call him this  today in response. I did PM NGB several months ago but got no response.

May I recommend you inform BuboBubo if he calls me it again he will get a temporary ban.

Otherwise please tell me what action you are taking. It is hardcore abuse.

Thank you.

Just to confirm I am happy to have the same warning.

Then neither of us are calling each other a 'Hippo'.   
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« Reply #248 on: August 01, 2023, 07:33:PM »
Looks like no response.

A pity. One piece of assertive action, either by PM or on the forum will stop me & BuboBubo calling each other a Hippo.

Maybe I was being optimistic. Warning me would be easy. But warning BuboBubo....
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« Reply #249 on: August 01, 2023, 07:37:PM »
Looks like no response.

A pity. One piece of assertive action, either by PM or on the forum will stop me & BuboBubo calling each other a Hippo.

Maybe I was being optimistic. Warning me would be easy. But warning BuboBubo....

Who are we supposed to be warning about what?  Bubo says you spread dung about the forum, like a hippo. You say Bubo's posts are long, convoluted not easy to follow. What do you want me to do, waive magic wand to make Bubo's posts more precise and your posts less frequent and more serious? Why don't you police your self?

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« Reply #250 on: August 01, 2023, 07:38:PM »
Who are we supposed to be warning about what?  Bubo says you spread dung about the forum, like a hippo. You say Bubo's posts are long, convoluted not easy to follow. What do you want me to do, waive magic wand to make Bubo's posts more precise and your posts less frequent and more serious? Why don't you police your self?

Did you not read reply 245?
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« Reply #251 on: August 01, 2023, 07:40:PM »
Being called a Hippo for over year is very offensive. Espescially as I keep fit.

It is hardcore personal abuse. 
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« Reply #252 on: August 01, 2023, 07:42:PM »
Did you not read reply 245?

Yeah I read it.  The answer to your problems will be found by posting more seriously. Since you sometimes manage to do just that, it's obvious you are capable of doing so when the mood takes you.

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« Reply #253 on: August 01, 2023, 07:46:PM »
Yeah I read it.  The answer to your problems will be found by posting more seriously. Since you sometimes manage to do just that, it's obvious you are capable of doing so when the mood takes you.

Ok. I will call BuboBubo a Hippo when he calls me one. Which degrades the forum.

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« Reply #254 on: August 01, 2023, 09:11:PM »
By the way have never claimed Boyce took up my suggestion. He may have come to the same conclusion as me albeit later. All I say is that someone else agrees with me. Though Snow thinks it possible that my idea filtered through to someone.
Not sure if Boyce came up with the idea about the Aga himself or was consulted by the campaign team Bubo.Yvonne doesn't really say who had the brain wave.

But there is one thing for sure,nothing could have been further from their minds in 2011 or whenever the appeal was,else they would have put the Aga burns forward instead of the flawed rifle evidence.

No,I would imagine Yvonne and others may check out various web sites relating to the Bamber case from time to time and may well have spotted your suggestion about the Aga,as I say it had not occured to them in 2011 anyway.

Very strange that Bamber didn't come up with the brain wave to check out the Aga parts,if he's guilty he must have seen Nevill lying against it,so could have suggested to check out the Aga any time in the last 38 years in connection with the burns to Nevill.Yet nothing.

Thing is,no one connected to the case at the time or since has ever mentioned the possibility of the Aga making the marks,never ever.NO ONE.
Either Bamber decided to keep this part of the massacre a secret from everyone,including Julie for some unknown reason,or he is simply innocent and did not witness Nevill lying against the Aga that night.
I think if Bamber is guilty we would have known about the cause of the burns many years ago,or at least you long term members would have heard anyway.Long before Bubo worked it out.

The problem for you Bubo,is that if Nevill was lying dead against the Aga and the police moved him,it will be very hard to prove who killed him,Bamber or Sheila.

The prosecution would simply argue that Bamber killed Nevill and left straight away and that the police moved Nevill for an 'innocent' reason after entry.Now I dont know if the paperwork can be shown to prove that the police accidentally killed June or not if this is what happened,maybe, if the defence got hold of the original case files or a whistle blower appeared,which may happen if the house of cards begins to unravel.

That is why I believe it would be better to argue,like Roch,that Nevill lay against the Aga for several minutes or even hours before getting up again to be shot and killed.A jury would never believe that Bamber wasted time waiting for Nevill to get up again,it just would not happen.

But,it seems in the mean time the campaign team agree with you Bubo,that the police did indeed move Nevill,so all we can do is wait and see what the CCRC conclude.
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