How June could have remained alive

[Rob_]

Maybe so. Oh! But hang on a minute. Nothing of a noxious nature was found at autopsy. Mmm! Now wouldn't you just think they'd have 'found' something to incriminate her? Something they could use to back up the 'suicide note' she was said to have written?

Sorry Jane you have lost me? it's quite simple a person with PS is fifteen times more likely to engage in violent behaviour if taking alcohol or drugs. Sheila took both.

[Jane]

Sorry Jane you have lost me? it's quite simple a person with PS is fifteen times more likely to engage in violent behaviour if taking alcohol or drugs. Sheila took both.

As none was found to be in her system, she wouldn't have been under the influence.

[Rob_]

As none was found to be in her system, she wouldn't have been under the influence.

Are you sure Jane? I thought trace amounts were present?

[Adam]

Sorry Jane you have lost me? it's quite simple a person with PS is fifteen times more likely to engage in violent behaviour if taking alcohol or drugs. Sheila took both.

Source please.

Not that it matters. Sheila was not drinking or taking drugs on the night.

Who says so? Bamber. 

[Rob_]

Source please.

Not that it matters. Sheila was not drinking or taking drugs on the night.

Who says so? Bamber.

Who says it has to be on the night? Do you have a source Adam?

[Adam]

Who says it has to be on the night? Do you have a source Adam?

Source. Bamber's WS.

[Rob_]

Source. Bamber's WS.

What does Bamber know? this is not a source?

[Adam]

What does Bamber know? this is not a source?

He was there for supper.

[Rob_]

He was there for supper.

As I have said before a episode can come on over days, the drive down with the children and Sheila not saying a single word is a classic symptom.

[Bubo bubo]

As I have said before a episode can come on over days, the drive down with the children and Sheila not saying a single word is a classic symptom.

I think these episodes are a bit like a volcano before it erupts. The magma comes slowly to the surface. smoke starts to appear. There are rumblings and some movement in the earth, tremors.

[Jane]

Are you sure Jane? I thought trace amounts were present?

They ruled out intoxication. May have resulted from a spliff at the party which was Sunday.

[Rob_]

They ruled out intoxication. May have resulted from a spliff at the party which was Sunday.

Thanks Jane that's all it would take.

[Zoso]

Are you sure Jane? I thought trace amounts were present?

So you're saying trace amounts of cannabis would be enough to cause psychosis but a still moderate dose of antipsychotic meds wouldn't be enough to prevent it?

[ILB]

So you're saying trace amounts of cannabis would be enough to cause psychosis but a still moderate dose of antipsychotic meds wouldn't be enough to prevent it?

Cannabis is detected for a month or so

Cocaine a few days

Alcohol remains in the blood for up to six hours and can remain on the breathe for up to 24 hours

[ILB]

Obviously it's individual specific.

It's an accepted fact Shelia was completely sober.

Any cannabis found in her system would not mean she was under the influence. If it relates from Days before.

Jeremy himself was a seasoned smoker of it.

It never did him any harm! Il get my coat 😆

Just a little bit of humour