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Offline Zoso

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Re: Ballistics manipulation
« Reply #105 on: July 28, 2023, 10:43:PM »
Was Paul Harrison a member then Dave?

Yes, but he wasn't.

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Re: Ballistics manipulation
« Reply #106 on: July 28, 2023, 10:45:PM »
I do not mind who agrees with me or not as the case may be. Every one was mocking my NB burns were made by the Aga. Seems I might have been right all along. I wonder how many more of my ideas/theories might gain traction?

You never know, they are pretty desperate for ideas.

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Re: Ballistics manipulation
« Reply #107 on: July 28, 2023, 10:46:PM »
I can't work out whether the Jeremy supporters genuinely believe in his innocence or spend hours working out a scenario which puts him in the clear.

Or just confuses the backside out of everyone, that they give up!

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Re: Ballistics manipulation
« Reply #108 on: July 28, 2023, 10:58:PM »

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Re: Ballistics manipulation
« Reply #109 on: July 28, 2023, 11:07:PM »
You never know, they are pretty desperate for ideas.
I think the start of this thread has plenty of ideas that are worthy of further examination. They are happy to plough on.

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Re: Ballistics manipulation
« Reply #110 on: July 28, 2023, 11:09:PM »
Or just confuses the backside out of everyone, that they give up!
Wow now you are as confused as Adam. Try confused.com it is an interesting website for potential customers. I know you will not give up until JB is released.
good night children Bubo is waving goodbye.
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Re: Ballistics manipulation
« Reply #111 on: July 28, 2023, 11:10:PM »
Yes, but he wasn't.
Yes AND no Zoso??

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Re: Ballistics manipulation
« Reply #112 on: July 29, 2023, 12:05:AM »

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Re: Ballistics manipulation
« Reply #113 on: July 29, 2023, 10:16:AM »
It matters not to me but if I react to the crap that is thrown I am castigated and told to be civil. It seems civility is a one way street where only guilters are allowed to chide and goad but when an innocence supporter returns the favour we get our knuckles rapped. From what I observe it is always the guilters that instigate. Read the posts on this thread. Seems to me you view things from a guilter perspective. Wake up and see where the initial 'shit' is started.


To Zoso
On this thread Steve made the age comment David accused me of taking drugs and Jane made a contribution that did not address the issue but was more like a health and safety talk on Aga's .Adam has been told off for calling me mad. Jane thinks agreeing with one thing MT says undermines my argument. Just check their posts. It is all par for the course if you support innocence. It is all totally pointless jibeing. You mistakenly accused me of using science for my whole theory when I was only referring  to the bullet swap. You all dash in without thought.
I reply in a similar vain.


The problem for those who believe JB guilty is that for years the only real evidence against him has been the SM and the testimony of a jilted lover who is a proven liar and a fraud. The SM has been undone by many including myself, there was always 2 and it was the main plank of the prosecution case.
Overtime the remaining circumstantial evidence like bike rides on sea walls and windows has been chipped away. They are seen for what they are just stories made up to cast JB as ruthless money seeking killer.

They are now reduced to 'over the garden fence' tittle tattle and gossip with no evidential purpose.
He said this which means this. He did that which means this. It is all about how they know what people were thinking. Many of them act as if they are mind readers. On and on it goes, reheating the same old tropes and bad mouthing JB.

As soon as anyone dares to suggest innocence and puts forward a contradictory point they are verbally savaged. Look what has happened to Bill Robertson for example. They do not try to dismantle or challenge the idea/theory they hunt in a pack to beat down sensible suggestions that have some value without thought or reason. They behave as if innocence belief is the work of the devil and requires the protagonists be put in the stocks or burned at the stake. They need to be put in a straight jacket and locked in a padded room.

Their lack of intellectual rigor is astounding. Just watch over the next few days as they snipe and sneer without any real evidence to support what they say.

They are lost in a dark cynical world where they are totally right in their beliefs and everyone else is a heretic.


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Look where it starts is what I asked not a history lesson. I have never criticized your change in stance to my knowledge even though I think it is misplaced.



I hear your anger. I hear your frustration. You clearly don't believe your points are being taken seriously. But you're not helpless. You have a choice and several alternatives. As I suggested you do with Adam, ie put him on ignore, I suggest you do with all of us -and it appears there are many such- who are causing you offence. That way, you'll have just a small, select team of those who agree with you, and you won't have to waste time in dealing with those of us who disagree with you and making reports to moderators. However, you will have to ignore those offending posts which get quoted otherwise there's little point.

Of course, you could choose to accept, as we all have to, that there will be those with whom we disagree. Even some of those on 'our' side. We are a diverse group, as is every group, be it religious, political, horticultural, historical or hysterical. We can either find ways to be comfortable within the group, or, as the saying goes, if we can't take the heat, we're better off being out of the kitchen.

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Re: Ballistics manipulation
« Reply #114 on: July 29, 2023, 10:35:AM »


I hear your anger. I hear your frustration. You clearly don't believe your points are being taken seriously. But you're not helpless. You have a choice and several alternatives. As I suggested you do with Adam, ie put him on ignore, I suggest you do with all of us -and it appears there are many such- who are causing you offence. That way, you'll have just a small, select team of those who agree with you, and you won't have to waste time in dealing with those of us who disagree with you and making reports to moderators. However, you will have to ignore those offending posts which get quoted otherwise there's little point.

Of course, you could choose to accept, as we all have to, that there will be those with whom we disagree. Even some of those on 'our' side. We are a diverse group, as is every group, be it religious, political, horticultural, historical or hysterical. We can either find ways to be comfortable within the group, or, as the saying goes, if we can't take the heat, we're better off being out of the kitchen.

He mentions Bill. I believe the forum would be a better place with Bill posting. I would say the same about Curious Essex who was a very good guilt supporter with expertise in telecoms. My point is, I'm not being one sided by supporting Bill. Some members need to realise that not all other members are keen on being mocked, disparaged etc.

It's horses for courses on here. Not one size fits all.

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Re: Ballistics manipulation
« Reply #115 on: July 29, 2023, 10:56:AM »
He mentions Bill. I believe the forum would be a better place with Bill posting. I would say the same about Curious Essex who was a very good guilt supporter with expertise in telecoms. My point is, I'm not being one sided by supporting Bill. Some members need to realise that not all other members are keen on being mocked, disparaged etc.

It's horses for courses on here. Not one size fits all.

Bill has brought the mockery on himself with all the crazy claims and predictions he kept making. Hence he now posts his lunacy on an external site with the comments blocked so he cannot be mocked directly.

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Re: Ballistics manipulation
« Reply #116 on: July 29, 2023, 11:02:AM »
He mentions Bill. I believe the forum would be a better place with Bill posting. I would say the same about Curious Essex who was a very good guilt supporter with expertise in telecoms. My point is, I'm not being one sided by supporting Bill. Some members need to realise that not all other members are keen on being mocked, disparaged etc.

It's horses for courses on here. Not one size fits all.


Exactly so, Roch. I think what explains it best is saying that it's not within our power to change other peoples' behaviours. All we can do is change our reaction to to them. That could be either accepting, ignoring, or 'leaving the kitchen'. The choice is ours, isn't it?

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Re: Ballistics manipulation
« Reply #117 on: July 29, 2023, 11:20:AM »
Bill has brought the mockery on himself with all the crazy claims and predictions he kept making. Hence he now posts his lunacy on an external site with the comments blocked so he cannot be mocked directly.

This is exactly what I am talking about David. Although you are a valued member who has researched the case and can produce brilliant posts, you seem unable to control your urges to mock people you disagree with. I'm sure Bill is able to navigate having his opinions and claims challenged in the right way. But you choose to do it in the wrong way, repeatedly.

I know you mock other posters also, for example Jane.

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Re: Ballistics manipulation
« Reply #118 on: July 29, 2023, 12:18:PM »
This is exactly what I am talking about David. Although you are a valued member who has researched the case and can produce brilliant posts, you seem unable to control your urges to mock people you disagree with. I'm sure Bill is able to navigate having his opinions and claims challenged in the right way. But you choose to do it in the wrong way, repeatedly.

I know you mock other posters also, for example Jane.
That is only half the point I am making. Guilters are almost always the genesis behind bust ups and if you reply in kind you are chastised for being uncivil. There is no way innocence supporters can escape their antics.

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Re: Ballistics manipulation
« Reply #119 on: July 29, 2023, 02:11:PM »
He was on here until he got banned. Reasons in the link below

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5844.msg259924.html#msg259924
Thanks Dave.
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