Prospective retirement

[ngb1066]

What sort of sentence do you see these protestors getting NGB?   It will be very interesting given the sentence’s given to the Southport riots and tweets?   They’re digging a very dangerous grave for themselves this Labour Government.

Starmer and his government are a disgrace.  He is going to go down in history as the worst PM we have had, which is saying something!  I think the police will find it hard to secure convictions in these PA cases.  Unlike most on the so called left (which does not mean much now) I also agree with Craig Murray that the sentence imposed on Lucy Connolly was absurd.  I also oppose the use of terrorism legislation against Tommy Robinson/Stephen Yaxley Lennon. It shows the dangers and when the left supports unjust   
laws being used against people we do not like it bites us in the end when it it is used against people we support.  We never seen to learn.  Starmer is a complete hypocrite.  I believe Labour will be wiped out at the next General Election.

 

[Steve_uk]

The Church (in its various guises) has always involved itself in political matters, because the teachings of the Bible relate to people and society.  Unfortunately organised religion has typically allied itself with the far right and reaction, but there have been shing examples of religious leaders taking a principled stand.  In the first category was Pope Pious XII who was a supporter of fascism, but in the second category was the last Pope who was courageous and progressive on several issues, in particular the crimes of the genocidal government of Israel.

He did not condemn Israel as such. He condemned collateral damage of a Christian church, but never referred to genocide.

As for the Palestinians, they and their Muslim mates started a war and lost. Get over it.

[Hardy Boy]

Starmer and his government are a disgrace.  He is going to go down in history as the worst PM we have had, which is saying something!  I think the police will find it hard to secure convictions in these PA cases.  Unlike most on the so called left (which does not mean much now) I also agree with Craig Murray that the sentence imposed on Lucy Connolly was absurd.  I also oppose the use of terrorism legislation against Tommy Robinson/Stephen Yaxley Lennon. It shows the dangers and when the left supports unjust   
laws being used against people we do not like it bites us in the end when it it is used against people we support.  We never seen to learn.  Starmer is a complete hypocrite.  I believe Labour will be wiped out at the next General Election.

 

I agree, the problem we’ve got though NGB the Tories have been as bad and I think it’s going to let Reform in or have some sort of balance of Power,  I did vote for Reform out of protest because of the two mainstream are absolutely awful and I’d sooner vote than waste it, maybe the Greens for me 🙈

[Steve_uk]

Starmer and his government are a disgrace.  He is going to go down in history as the worst PM we have had, which is saying something!  I think the police will find it hard to secure convictions in these PA cases.  Unlike most on the so called left (which does not mean much now) I also agree with Craig Murray that the sentence imposed on Lucy Connolly was absurd.  I also oppose the use of terrorism legislation against Tommy Robinson/Stephen Yaxley Lennon. It shows the dangers and when the left supports unjust   
laws being used against people we do not like it bites us in the end when it it is used against people we support.  We never seen to learn.  Starmer is a complete hypocrite.  I believe Labour will be wiped out at the next General Election.

 

I think many agree with that. A human rights lawyer, who can't get round to drafting our own human rights legislation to supersede the ECHR, a foreign court which disables the UK from stopping the boats.

[Hardy Boy]

Starmer and his government are a disgrace.  He is going to go down in history as the worst PM we have had, which is saying something!  I think the police will find it hard to secure convictions in these PA cases.  Unlike most on the so called left (which does not mean much now) I also agree with Craig Murray that the sentence imposed on Lucy Connolly was absurd.  I also oppose the use of terrorism legislation against Tommy Robinson/Stephen Yaxley Lennon. It shows the dangers of this type of legislation. When the left supports unjust laws being used against people we do not like it bites us in the end when the same laws are used against people we support.  We never seen to learn.  Starmer is a complete hypocrite.  I believe Labour will be wiped out at the next General Election.

 

Ive noticed more Labour MPs  have been suspended now, maybe Corbyn will make a comeback.

[Steve_uk]

I agree, the problem we’ve got though NGB the Tories have been as bad and I think it’s going to let Reform in or have some sort of balance of Power,  I did vote for Reform out of protest because of the two mainstream are absolutely awful and I’d sooner vote than waste it, maybe the Greens for me 🙈

Nobody can afford the fuel bills the Greens' policy would bring. I read they want to instal those gigantic, ugly wind turbines in Bronte county now. You couldn't make it up.

[Steve_uk]

The liberal agenda of the 1960s has come back to haunt us:

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/dartford/news/it-s-madness-lakeside-community-terrorised-by-catapult-wi-325207/

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newsmanchester/new-measures-to-tackle-anti-social-behaviour-near-a-stockport-reservoir/ar-AA1IJALV?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=154a74f5281e4989a0c56343f79e22aa&ei=14

[handymanz]

I agree, the problem we’ve got though NGB the Tories have been as bad and I think it’s going to let Reform in or have some sort of balance of Power,  I did vote for Reform out of protest because of the two mainstream are absolutely awful and I’d sooner vote than waste it, maybe the Greens for me 🙈

This is what happens when someone gets elected with a huge majority, yet picks up roughly a third of the vote.

[Hardy Boy]

This is what happens when someone gets elected with a huge majority, yet picks up roughly a third of the vote.

I agree and this just about sums it up…… Keir Starmer has won 63 per cent of the seats on just 33.8 per cent of the votes, the smallest vote share of any modern PM. Lower than any of the (many) pollsters predicted. So Labour in 2024 managed just 1.6 percentage points higher than the Jeremy Corbyn calamity in 2019 – and less than Corbyn managed in 2017.

[Hardy Boy]

I like Chatsworth House, but otherwise it's a bit remote for my liking.

Thinking about the Rachel Nickell case, does anyone frequent London regularly and do you feel safe in the parks there?

This happens quite a lot now Steve, it seems the norm in London, I think it was reported 1 phone theft every 6 minutes?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14912985/Australian-model-phone-snatched-chases-thieves.html

[Jane]

Her sisters were Diana, Oswald Moseley's wife and a committed Nazi, and Jessica who was an active Communist.

My friend's sister in law, Ann de Courcy, wrote the last bio on Diana Moseley nee Mitford. As promised, she didn't release it until after Diana's death.

[Jane]

For what it's worth, I really don't believe there are many politicians who put country before career. Although I also wonder how safe it is for them -which ever party they support- to do otherwise? Re the -improbable- prospect of Labour's re-election. I think that ship sailed within the first couple of weeks when they stopped the winter fuel allowance. The decisions they've taken, since then, have probably caused it to sink!

[Roch]

My friend's sister in law, Ann de Courcy, wrote the last bio on Diana Moseley nee Mitford. As promised, she didn't release it until after Diana's death.

There family home was less than 24 miles north west my town. Mitford in Northumberland.

[handymanz]

I like Chatsworth House, but otherwise it's a bit remote for my liking.

Thinking about the Rachel Nickell case, does anyone frequent London regularly and do you feel safe in the parks there?

I watched a doco on Sky last night about the Rachel Nickell case. It featured Colin Stagg the guy framed by the Police. Don't think you could find a worse example of bad Policing.
And even the Police investigating earlier rape murders carried out by the actual perpetrator were equally as incompetent. Had they done their job properly Rachel Nickell wouldn't have been murdered.

[handymanz]

I agree and this just about sums it up…… Keir Starmer has won 63 per cent of the seats on just 33.8 per cent of the votes, the smallest vote share of any modern PM. Lower than any of the (many) pollsters predicted. So Labour in 2024 managed just 1.6 percentage points higher than the Jeremy Corbyn calamity in 2019 – and less than Corbyn managed in 2017.

 I crunched the numbers after the UK election.
Deciding to play around with my calculator and apply the election results to NZ's MMP system, as opposed to the UK's FPP system.
I know that people may vote differently under a different system. But let's assume voters voted for their preferred party without being influenced by their constituent MP.  As was the case with Andrew Bridgen.
Here are the results under NZ's MMP system.

Labour = 224
Tories = 158
Reform = 95
Lib Dems =81
Greens = 46
Scottish National = 16
Sinn Fein = 7
Democratic Union Party = 5
Independent = 6
Plaid Cymru = 4
Alliance=3
Social Democratic Labour = 2
Ulster Union = 2
Trade Union Voice = 1

(Maybe a Labour/ Lib Dem / Green coalition.)

https://www.bbc.com/news/election/2024/uk/results