The window Jeremy used for entry

[ILB]

A friend of mine ended up in prison, and I never once asked him any searching questions and to be honest I never even wanted to. Although JB's situation is different I would have thought it would be extremely tiresome people claiming to support him continually asking loaded questions?

Jeremy is a convicted multiple murderer.  Who claims innocence.

Loaded questions come part and parcel of his circumstance. He has spent 38 years in prison and should garner any type of exposure of his case. Awkward questions whether continuous or not he shouldn't get tired of.

He is either the world's unluckiest man and has had his life stolen from him, lost his family, lost his liberty wrongly. Or one of the world's most coldest and cynical. The latter meaning if his gulity he has led people on a merry dance who have given time and effort for him ( Mike ) et al.

The general public are always going to ask the awkward questions. In the event Jeremy gets his convictions overturned many will think of him as a man " who is still gulity as sin "

[Rob_]

Jeremy is a convicted multiple murderer.  Who claims innocence.

Loaded questions come part and parcel of his circumstance. He has spent 38 years in prison and should garner any type of exposure of his case. Awkward questions whether continuous or not he shouldn't get tired of.

He is either the world's unluckiest man and has had his life stolen from him, lost his family, lost his liberty wrongly. Or one of the world's most coldest and cynical. The latter meaning if his gulity he has led people on a merry dance who have given time and effort for him ( Mike ) et al.

The general public are always going to ask the awkward questions. In the event Jeremy gets his convictions overturned many will think of him as a man " who is still gulity as sin "

I agree ILB but I was not referring to the general public but to people claiming to support him. If you have been with someone all your life you would have a good idea of how much they typically carry in their wallet. I simply do not see anything in making a song and dance of him saying 4 or 5 hundred quid was in the wallet.

If Bamber had said £535 and that was accurate then that might be different.

[snow66!]

I agree ILB but I was not referring to the general public but to people claiming to support him. If you have been with someone all your life you would have a good idea of how much they typically carry in their wallet. I simply do not see anything in making a song and dance of him saying 4 or 5 hundred quid was in the wallet.

If Bamber had said £535 and that was accurate then that might be different.

Yes,good point Rob.

[ILB]

I don't think the ITV drama did Jeremy much justice to be honest.

Appeal wise not much detriment, however getting people on your side a different matter

[snow66!]

I don't think the ITV drama did Jeremy much justice to be honest.

Appeal wise not much detriment, however getting people on your side a different matter

I would agree with that ILB,the programme was made in a way to make sure the audience was rooting for Stan Jones and the mild mannered relatives who were all portrayed as the underdogs fighting to prove Bamber was indeed a devious killer who had to be rightly brought to justice.

Having said that,it caused me to look into the case ever since,unsure if JB is guilty or not.

[ILB]

I would agree with that ILB,the programme was made in a way to make sure the audience was rooting for Stan Jones and the mild mannered relatives who were all portrayed as the underdogs fighting to prove Bamber was indeed a devious killer who had to be rightly brought to justice.

Having said that,it caused me to look into the case ever since,unsure if JB is guilty or not.

Yes snow

I don't think Jeremy is a type of person who people " warm " to. And I've witnessed this first hand.

[snow66!]

Yes snow

I don't think Jeremy is a type of person who people " warm " to. And I've witnessed this first hand.

Yes,I kind of gathered that ILB,even many of his supporters.

[Zoso]

If zoso wants to change stance over a wallet then that's her decision and we should respect it.

I'm not privy to the whole correspondance between Jeremy and Zoso. If she has her reasons. Then so be it

I do - it's not the only reason - but I'm no longer happy to debate here as much as I used to. It just gets too toxic and to be honest, I can't be arsed with it.

[Zoso]

A friend of mine ended up in prison, and I never once asked him any searching questions and to be honest I never even wanted to. Although JB's situation is different I would have thought it would be extremely tiresome people claiming to support him continually asking loaded questions?

Why else would anyone correspond with him if not to talk about the case? He's NOT a celebrity and if he wants public support, he should be prepared to answer their questions and if innocent, there shouldn't be a problem with that now should there? If he doesn't know an answer, then it's fine to say that, if he can't remember, that's fine too. What isn't fine is to avoid answering something.

You don't have to agree, I really don't care one way or another but unless you have had some interaction with him, you really have no idea what you're talking about. I most certainly DID support him until HE gave me reason to doubt.

[Zoso]

Didn't Bamber phone the police to say his fathers wallet was missing?
Where was the wallet found?

It was the first thing he went looking for when visiting WHF for the first time after the murders. When he couldn't find it (and it begs the question of how he would know where to look!) - he called EP asking to speak to 'Jones' (Stand Jones), suggesting EP had stolen it. Ann Eaton had already given it to Basil - for some reason she didn't tell Bamber that, she should have done

[Zoso]

Jeremy is a convicted multiple murderer.  Who claims innocence.

Loaded questions come part and parcel of his circumstance. He has spent 38 years in prison and should garner any type of exposure of his case. Awkward questions whether continuous or not he shouldn't get tired of.

He is either the world's unluckiest man and has had his life stolen from him, lost his family, lost his liberty wrongly. Or one of the world's most coldest and cynical. The latter meaning if his gulity he has led people on a merry dance who have given time and effort for him ( Mike ) et al.

The general public are always going to ask the awkward questions. In the event Jeremy gets his convictions overturned many will think of him as a man " who is still gulity as sin "

Exactly, couldn't have said it better.

[Zoso]

I agree ILB but I was not referring to the general public but to people claiming to support him. If you have been with someone all your life you would have a good idea of how much they typically carry in their wallet. I simply do not see anything in making a song and dance of him saying 4 or 5 hundred quid was in the wallet.

If Bamber had said £535 and that was accurate then that might be different.

People who support him ARE the general public!!

Why on earth would you know how much your father has in his wallet? I knew my dad for longer than Jeremy knew his and there isn't ONE DAY that I knew how much money he had. The suggestion is ridiculous but like many, you're biased and just fire fighting. Been here many times. You have also missed the point (as many do) - the fact that he knew pretty much how much was in there and that it should have been in a particular place made me 'wonder' but the fact that he avoided answering the question solidified 'suspicion'. If you want to accept everything he says without question, that's for you - I'm not like that and I owe him nothing - I'm not now or was I ever in ore of him. He's a bloke in prison that may have been innocent, if so, he's have deserved support - now I believe he's a bloke in prison who deserves to be there.

[Zoso]

Yes snow

I don't think Jeremy is a type of person who people " warm " to. And I've witnessed this first hand.

I have to say, I always found him polite and pleasant - except when talking about RWB. I also found a letter he wrote to me mentioning Colin - in bad taste. He didn't seem to grasp what losing two children must feel like. It all adds to forming an impression.

[snow66!]

It was the first thing he went looking for when visiting WHF for the first time after the murders. When he couldn't find it (and it begs the question of how he would know where to look!) - he called EP asking to speak to 'Jones' (Stand Jones), suggesting EP had stolen it. Ann Eaton had already given it to Basil - for some reason she didn't tell Bamber that, she should have done

How did AE know where to find it Zoso? In fact where did she find it ,and how much money was there in it?

[Adam]

How did AE know where to find it Zoso? In fact where did she find it ,and how much money was there in it?

How is that important?

Bamber is the person convicted.