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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #270 on: July 13, 2023, 03:55:PM »
Unless someone can say " I saw Jeremy Bamber steal the bike "

Then his claim remains valid that he borrowed it.

Julie hasn't disputed his borrowing it for her reason.

He borrowed it without telling June.
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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #271 on: July 13, 2023, 04:41:PM »
He borrowed it without telling June.
You are still doing it. You now agree it was not stolen but are adding crap that you cannot possibly know and again making a statement for which you have no evidence.

I use your phrase. Source please.

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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #272 on: July 13, 2023, 05:07:PM »
You are still doing it. You now agree it was not stolen but are adding crap that you cannot possibly know and again making a statement for which you have no evidence.

I use your phrase. Source please.

Bamber and June were not speaking to each other. Multiple sources available.

Did you purchase a book on the case? Give you a better understanding of it.

Me and ILB recommend Wilkes.
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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #273 on: July 13, 2023, 05:13:PM »
Bamber and June were not speaking to each other. Multiple sources available.

Did you purchase a book on the case? Give you a better understanding of it.

Me and ILB recommend Wilkes.
I prefer real evidence where available but feel free to speculate with regard to what happened between JB leaving and the TFG entry since it is impossible to know. However we are free to interpret what we can see from the evidence we do have and the crime scene photos.

Please provide a source that JB and June were not on speaking terms during August 1985. Once again you are making unsubstantiated crap claims. Wilkes book is not evidence.

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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #274 on: July 13, 2023, 05:15:PM »
I prefer real evidence where available but feel free to speculate with regard to what happened between JB leaving and the TFG entry since it is impossible to know. However we are free to interpret what we can see from the evidence we do have and the crime scene photos.

Please provide a source that JB and June were not on speaking terms during August 1985. Once again you are making unsubstantiated crap claims. Wilkes book is not evidence.

Try not to be rude. We have different stances.

I have already given you Mary Mugford's court testimony. Ditto Julie.
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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #275 on: July 13, 2023, 05:24:PM »
Try not to be rude. We have different stances.

I have already given you Mary Mugford's court testimony. Ditto Julie.

You do not have  a stance you have not produced evidence that they were not on speaking terms during the period in question. You are just using statements that were made after the event and related to weeks before the period in question. Where is the evidence that JB and June were not on speaking terms in the weeks leading up to 07/08/85.

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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #276 on: July 13, 2023, 05:30:PM »
You do not have  a stance you have not produced evidence that they were not on speaking terms during the period in question. You are just using statements that were made after the event and related to weeks before the period in question. Where is the evidence that JB and June were not on speaking terms in the weeks leading up to 07/08/85.

They had not spoken for years.

Bamber testified MM's testimony was correct.
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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #277 on: July 13, 2023, 05:41:PM »
They had not spoken for years.

Bamber testified MM's testimony was correct.

Publish the trial testimony that shows they had not spoken for years and were not on speaking terms in the week before the murders.
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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #278 on: July 13, 2023, 05:51:PM »
Publish the trial testimony that shows they had not spoken for years and were not on speaking terms in the week before the murders.

It is in Wilkes's book. A lot of trial transcript is in it.
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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #279 on: July 13, 2023, 07:36:PM »
It is in Wilkes's book. A lot of trial transcript is in it.
Ok scan it and post it on the forum.

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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #280 on: July 13, 2023, 07:44:PM »
They had not spoken for years.

Bamber testified MM's testimony was correct.
Again you are guilty of only quoting part of what was said. You selectively only post the facts that support your thinking so as not to give the real truth of matters. JB and June did fall out but by the time of the murders they were reconciled. Even Steve uk acknowledges this. There is no evidence that were not on speaking terms at the time of the murders

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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #281 on: July 13, 2023, 07:50:PM »
Ok scan it and post it on the forum.

Get the book and read it.

It is a straight forward case. I have no idea why you come up with such crazy theories.
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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #282 on: July 13, 2023, 07:52:PM »
Again you are guilty of only quoting part of what was said. You selectively only post the facts that support your thinking so as not to give the real truth of matters. JB and June did fall out but by the time of the murders they were reconciled. Even Steve uk acknowledges this. There is no evidence that were not on speaking terms at the time of the murders

I am quoting a part of Bamber's testimony.

Bamber thought June was a religious maniac.
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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #283 on: July 13, 2023, 07:58:PM »
As said before, The Sea Wall was excellent evidence he cycled. As it passed no properties or people.

ILB would drive or cycle past properties, people & security cameras. I would be a lot more cautious. 

The police would know not all jurors would believe Bamber would have ILB's approach.
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Re: Confirmation June's bike was stolen.
« Reply #284 on: July 13, 2023, 08:08:PM »
I am quoting a part of Bamber's testimony.

Bamber thought June was a religious maniac.
That does not prove they were not on speaking terms at the time of the murders.